Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2026 00:51:59 +0200
On 6/2/26 22:44, Adrian Johnston via Std-Proposals wrote:
> Next, if I ask Claude what data it was given about the C++ standard, it says it was trained on "commentary, documentation, and discussion during training — not verbatim text." It can identify final drafts like N4950 as being available, but for some reason it needs to be explicitly encouraged to consult that document.
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> In general, the AI companies are being very careful to avoid been seen to use copywritten data like the C++ standard.
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> If we want AI generated responses and AI generated code to be as modern and correct as possible, I think it would make sense to release the copyright to the AI companies to use in training. And then insist they used that information as purveyors of programming tools.
I would like to point out that the copyright for the C++ standard
is with ISO, and it is not in scope for WG21 to discuss that.
If you do wish to discuss the copyright situation, please ask your
National Body to discuss this at the appropriate level within ISO.
Jens
> Next, if I ask Claude what data it was given about the C++ standard, it says it was trained on "commentary, documentation, and discussion during training — not verbatim text." It can identify final drafts like N4950 as being available, but for some reason it needs to be explicitly encouraged to consult that document.
>
> In general, the AI companies are being very careful to avoid been seen to use copywritten data like the C++ standard.
>
> If we want AI generated responses and AI generated code to be as modern and correct as possible, I think it would make sense to release the copyright to the AI companies to use in training. And then insist they used that information as purveyors of programming tools.
I would like to point out that the copyright for the C++ standard
is with ISO, and it is not in scope for WG21 to discuss that.
If you do wish to discuss the copyright situation, please ask your
National Body to discuss this at the appropriate level within ISO.
Jens
Received on 2026-06-02 22:52:02
