[GDR]
>>> I would strongly recommend moving away from rationale of "closed source", or "I cannot check myself". We are aiming for an international standard, not a personal project.

[René]
>> [...] Hence I'm hurt at the characterization of my career as a
>> "personal project".
>>
>> Can you explain why you came to the conclusions in your statements?

I was providing feedback on the draft document that was to be discussed by SG15, not on your career nor did it occur to me that your career could be substituted for the draft document.
In any event, I did not characterize your career as "personal project", and I offer my deepest apologies for the hurt you felt from something I did not say or intend.

>> This is not the kind of professional behavior I would expect in an ISO setting.

Respectfully, I take offense at your characterization of my "professional behavior".

-- Gaby

-----Original Message-----
From: René Ferdinand Rivera Morell <grafikrobot_at_gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 7:43 AM
To: sg15_at_[hidden]
Cc: John Spicer <jhs_at_edg.com>; Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr_at_microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [SG15] P2717R2, EcoIS Introspection for discussion.

I sent the below email on Jun 16, more than three weeks ago. And I
have not gotten an explanation. Gaby, can you respond ASAP.

I am including John Spicer in this email chain to hopefully provide
some assistance. and visibility.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 6:19 PM René Ferdinand Rivera Morell
<grafikrobot_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:47 AM Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr_at_microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > I hope we are not "developing" a standard to name and shame closed-source tools, or only for open source tools.
> >
> > I would strongly recommend moving away from rationale of "closed source", or "I cannot check myself". We are aiming for an international standard, not a personal project.
>
> I've now thought about those statements for some hours and I'm rather
> confused why you would think the above is anywhere close to what is in
> the paper. I'm rather taken aback by being accused of having an intent
> to shame anyone with the contents of my paper. This is not the kind of
> professional behavior I would expect in an ISO setting.
>
> I've worked professionally on close-source applications, some of them
> tools, for almost 3 decades. I have also given a substantial amount of
> my free time to open-source work for over 2 decades. And I have given
> a substantial amount of my free time to open standards for over a
> decade. Hence I'm hurt at the characterization of my career as a
> "personal project".
>
> Can you explain why you came to the conclusions in your statements?


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