On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:00 AM Ben Boeckel <ben.boeckel_at_[hidden]>
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 08:49:18 -0500, René Ferdinand Rivera Morell via
> Ext wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 8:22 AM Daniel Ruoso via SG15 <
> sg15_at_[hidden]>
> > wrote:
> > > Why do we need to coerce compilers into playing this role?
> >
> > Because build systems are not part of the ISO standards from WG21. While
> we
> > can't describe a build ecosystem in an ISO standard, C++ will need to be
> > usable without the existence of anything except the "compiler".
>
> Well, if we're getting technical, ISO C++ doesn't have compilers either
> (at least "compile" is nowhere in `[intro.defs]`). There *are*
> implementations. How they exist or work is not something I've seen in
> the C++ standard.
>
> And even given what I think you're referring to as a "compiler", I have
> no idea what to do with such a thing without a standard library, linker,
> or backing platform implementation (because no C++ stdlib I'm aware of
> implements `std::filesystem` without an underlying platform).
>

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 11:08 AM Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr_at_[hidden]> wrote:

>
>
> Compilers aren’t part of the ISO standards from WG21, either!
>

Indeed. Which is why I wrote the word compiler in quotes.

Although the various mentions of compilers in non-normative notes might
give the wrong impression.

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