Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:06:16 +0300
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 19:57, Tom Honermann via Std-Discussion
<std-discussion_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> If C++ is a public standard, it must also be a) for users b) for anyone
> deciding to implement a compiler next year and not having participated
> into standardization.
>
> The standard is publicly available and new drafts are made available three times a year. For anyone serious about producing a compiler, all the information needed is publicly available. Participation is only required for those that wish to contribute to changes to the standard.
There's the fun part. The standard is not publicly available, you
actually need to get it from ISO. The most recent messages about
ISO rules that I heard of suggested that even the working drafts
should not be publicly available, but we keep them publicly
available anyway. So therein lies a false presumption; C++ is not a
public standard, and even for the parts we make publicly
available, it's not an obligation of any of us to satisfy Gennaro's
personal demands for it, nor is he in any position to make
demands for what we do in our copious free time that we voluntarily
spend working on the standard.
In case someone wants to make summaries or changelogs or any such
reports or information available, they're more than welcome
to volunteer to do so. Otherwise, they can continue crying on this
forum, because that crying is seriously unlikely to cause
our busy schedules and priorities to change to appease demands from
self-appointed managers of our work.
<std-discussion_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> If C++ is a public standard, it must also be a) for users b) for anyone
> deciding to implement a compiler next year and not having participated
> into standardization.
>
> The standard is publicly available and new drafts are made available three times a year. For anyone serious about producing a compiler, all the information needed is publicly available. Participation is only required for those that wish to contribute to changes to the standard.
There's the fun part. The standard is not publicly available, you
actually need to get it from ISO. The most recent messages about
ISO rules that I heard of suggested that even the working drafts
should not be publicly available, but we keep them publicly
available anyway. So therein lies a false presumption; C++ is not a
public standard, and even for the parts we make publicly
available, it's not an obligation of any of us to satisfy Gennaro's
personal demands for it, nor is he in any position to make
demands for what we do in our copious free time that we voluntarily
spend working on the standard.
In case someone wants to make summaries or changelogs or any such
reports or information available, they're more than welcome
to volunteer to do so. Otherwise, they can continue crying on this
forum, because that crying is seriously unlikely to cause
our busy schedules and priorities to change to appease demands from
self-appointed managers of our work.
Received on 2021-06-16 12:06:28