I generally like the idea of seeking to discover what students know and do not know in creative ways that make students look objectively at their respective knowledge base. It is an approach I tend to follow when trying to learn something new. I pick the smallest book / article that I can find (from an authoritative source) that aims to provide a big picture overview of the topic and I write down what I didn't know before reading the material. The points that I write down become my areas for deep-dive. Is there any chance that Bjarne's document that was referenced will be shared in this group? //DM On February 6, 2020 at 3:36 PM, sg20-request_at_[hidden] wrote: Send SG20 mailing list submissions to      sg20_at_[hidden] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit        https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg20 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to    sg20-request_at_[hidden] You can reach the person managing the list at    sg20-owner_at_[hidden] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of SG20 digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [isocpp-ext] What students know about (and don't) (JC van Winkel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 21:35:36 +0100 From: JC van Winkel <jcvw_at_[hidden]> To: sg20_at_[hidden] Subject: [SG20] Fwd: [isocpp-ext] What students know about (and don't) Message-ID:        <CAJDT16pAto6PuFu_zTvYCMfqOHggFd2B181L_SC6pnYDZbKHAg_at_[hidden]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Food for thought... JC ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Bjarne Stroustrup via Ext <ext_at_[hidden]> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 02:13 Subject: [isocpp-ext] What students know about (and don't) To: Evolution Working Group mailing list <ext_at_[hidden]>, C++ Library Evolution Working Group <lib-ext_at_[hidden]> Cc: Bjarne Stroustrup <bjarne_at_[hidden]> Each year I give a homework assignment to get me some information to help me decide what and how to teach in a "Design using C++" course. See attached. For those of you who don't deal with students or people outside the C++ community, this information might be useful. PLEASE DON?T SHARE THIS OUTSIDE THE COMMITTEE This is the language section; the standard-library section should be ready over the weekend. Comments are of course welcome. _______________________________________________ Ext mailing list Ext_at_[hidden] Subscription: https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/ext Link to this post: http://lists.isocpp.org/ext/2020/02/12583.php -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: student surprises language.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 70138 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.isocpp.org/sg20/attachments/20200206/9d50274e/attachment.docx> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer SG20 mailing list SG20_at_[hidden] https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg20 ------------------------------ End of SG20 Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 **********************************