Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 10:02:49 -0400
Great, here is the change I'm making to address this:
Protocol designers:
* If possible, mandate use of UTF-8 without a BOM; diagnose the
presence of a BOM in consumed text as an error, and produce text
without a BOM.
* Otherwise, if possible, mandate use of UTF-8 with or without a
BOM; accept and discard a BOM in consumed text, and produce text
without a BOM.
* Otherwise, if possible, use UTF-8 as the default encoding with
use of other encodings negotiated using information other than a
BOM; accept and discard a BOM in consumed text, and produce text
without a BOM.
* Otherwise, require the presence of a BOM to differentiate UTF-8
encoded text in both consumed and produced text*unless the
absence of a BOM would result in the text being interpreted as
an ASCII-based encoding and the UTF-8 text contains no non-ASCII
characters (the exception is intended to avoid the addition of a
BOM to ASCII text thus rendering such text as non-ASCII)*. This
approach should be reserved for scenarios in which UTF-8 cannot
be adopted as a default due to backward compatibility concerns.
Tom.
On 10/12/20 8:40 AM, Alisdair Meredith wrote:
> That addresses my main concern. Essentially, best practice (for
> UTF-8) would be no BOM unless the document contains code points that
> require multiple code units to express.
>
> AlisdairM
>
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 23:22, Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]
>> <mailto:tom_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/10/20 7:58 PM, Alisdair Meredith via SG16 wrote:
>>> One concern I have, that might lead into rationale for the current
>>> discouragement,
>>> is that I would hate to see a best practice that pushes a BOM into
>>> ASCII files.
>>> One of the nice properties of UTF-8 is that a valid ASCII file
>>> (still very common) is
>>> also a valid UTF-8 file. Changing best practice would encourage
>>> updating those
>>> files to be no longer ASCII.
>>
>> Thanks, Alisdair. I think that concern is implicitly addressed by
>> the suggested resolutions, but perhaps that can be made more clear.
>> One possibility would be to modify the "protocol designer" guidelines
>> to address the case where a protocol's default encoding is ASCII
>> based and to specify that a BOM is only required for UTF-8 text that
>> contains non-ASCII characters. Would that be helpful?
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>>>
>>> AlisdairM
>>>
>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 14:54, Tom Honermann via SG16
>>>> <sg16_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg16_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Attached is a draft proposal for the Unicode standard that intends
>>>> to clarify the current recommendation regarding use of a BOM in
>>>> UTF-8 text. This is follow up to discussion on the Unicode mailing
>>>> list
>>>> <https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2020-June/008713.html>
>>>> back in June.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback is welcome. I plan to submit
>>>> <https://www.unicode.org/pending/docsubmit.html> this to the UTC in
>>>> a week or so pending review feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Tom.
>>>>
>>>> <Unicode-BOM-guidance.pdf>--
>>>> SG16 mailing list
>>>> SG16_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG16_at_[hidden]>
>>>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg16
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Protocol designers:
* If possible, mandate use of UTF-8 without a BOM; diagnose the
presence of a BOM in consumed text as an error, and produce text
without a BOM.
* Otherwise, if possible, mandate use of UTF-8 with or without a
BOM; accept and discard a BOM in consumed text, and produce text
without a BOM.
* Otherwise, if possible, use UTF-8 as the default encoding with
use of other encodings negotiated using information other than a
BOM; accept and discard a BOM in consumed text, and produce text
without a BOM.
* Otherwise, require the presence of a BOM to differentiate UTF-8
encoded text in both consumed and produced text*unless the
absence of a BOM would result in the text being interpreted as
an ASCII-based encoding and the UTF-8 text contains no non-ASCII
characters (the exception is intended to avoid the addition of a
BOM to ASCII text thus rendering such text as non-ASCII)*. This
approach should be reserved for scenarios in which UTF-8 cannot
be adopted as a default due to backward compatibility concerns.
Tom.
On 10/12/20 8:40 AM, Alisdair Meredith wrote:
> That addresses my main concern. Essentially, best practice (for
> UTF-8) would be no BOM unless the document contains code points that
> require multiple code units to express.
>
> AlisdairM
>
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 23:22, Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]
>> <mailto:tom_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/10/20 7:58 PM, Alisdair Meredith via SG16 wrote:
>>> One concern I have, that might lead into rationale for the current
>>> discouragement,
>>> is that I would hate to see a best practice that pushes a BOM into
>>> ASCII files.
>>> One of the nice properties of UTF-8 is that a valid ASCII file
>>> (still very common) is
>>> also a valid UTF-8 file. Changing best practice would encourage
>>> updating those
>>> files to be no longer ASCII.
>>
>> Thanks, Alisdair. I think that concern is implicitly addressed by
>> the suggested resolutions, but perhaps that can be made more clear.
>> One possibility would be to modify the "protocol designer" guidelines
>> to address the case where a protocol's default encoding is ASCII
>> based and to specify that a BOM is only required for UTF-8 text that
>> contains non-ASCII characters. Would that be helpful?
>>
>> Tom.
>>
>>>
>>> AlisdairM
>>>
>>>> On Oct 10, 2020, at 14:54, Tom Honermann via SG16
>>>> <sg16_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg16_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Attached is a draft proposal for the Unicode standard that intends
>>>> to clarify the current recommendation regarding use of a BOM in
>>>> UTF-8 text. This is follow up to discussion on the Unicode mailing
>>>> list
>>>> <https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2020-June/008713.html>
>>>> back in June.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback is welcome. I plan to submit
>>>> <https://www.unicode.org/pending/docsubmit.html> this to the UTC in
>>>> a week or so pending review feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Tom.
>>>>
>>>> <Unicode-BOM-guidance.pdf>--
>>>> SG16 mailing list
>>>> SG16_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG16_at_[hidden]>
>>>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg16
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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