Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 20:51:05 +0300
On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 at 20:28, Ryan McDougall <mcdougall.ryan_at_[hidden]> wrote:
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> C++ is practically defined by its list of surprising behaviours -- this is not new, nor a bar for rejecting an otherwise full, well founded, and desired proposal. It is making a mountain out of a molehill, so the baby can be out with the bath water. P3640 is neither full nor well founded.
It's splendidly well-founded on what hardened stdlib implementations
do, and also on things like
https://bsky.app/profile/chandlerc.blog/post/3m35db54rcc2a
>While adding new complexity to C++ that could surprise some is regrettable, the idea that it is "less safe -- full stop!" is professionally inexcusable hyperbole.
I suppose we have to agree to disagree on that.
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> C++ is practically defined by its list of surprising behaviours -- this is not new, nor a bar for rejecting an otherwise full, well founded, and desired proposal. It is making a mountain out of a molehill, so the baby can be out with the bath water. P3640 is neither full nor well founded.
It's splendidly well-founded on what hardened stdlib implementations
do, and also on things like
https://bsky.app/profile/chandlerc.blog/post/3m35db54rcc2a
>While adding new complexity to C++ that could surprise some is regrettable, the idea that it is "less safe -- full stop!" is professionally inexcusable hyperbole.
I suppose we have to agree to disagree on that.
Received on 2025-10-14 17:51:21