I have had interests in SC7/WG4 work ever since the AFNOR group brought it to my attention about 9 months ago. I do think there is some relationship/overlapping to study further. I just haven't had time to attend their meetings - WG21 is taxing is many ways, in addition to daytime job.

-- Gaby

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Did you have a look at any of the documents?

My impression is, that, for example, a document called `Capabilities of build and deployment tools` has at least some relation to what we try to define here.

That nobody there is specialized on C++ and that the point of view is a broader one is obvious.

I just thought, given the fact that not too many people are very active here in SG15, and that there are people out there who care about the topic in general, it might be worth to see if there could be synergies.

But if there is zero interest, then maybe not.

I just fear, with the give resources, we will not come very far with any of the topics we wish would be addressed in the C++ eco system.

/Harald

On 2023-06-13 14:14, Michael Spencer wrote:
The Ecosystem IS is currently focused on C++ specific issues that tools need to deal with. Looking at the entire list of published standards from SC 7/WG 4 starting in 1995, they are entirely focused on tools for aiding in "software engineering", where that is interpreted the same way as civil engineering. They do not work on any standards related to any tools that the Ecosystem IS would ever cover.

- Michael Spencer


On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 11:57 AM Harald Achitz via SG15 <sg15_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg15_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
Hi, I have a question



There is ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4
which translates to Software and systems engineering/Tools and environment

And there is ongoing work regarding build and deployment tools.

I found some documents

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1572
Base Document of PWI Build_Deployment_Tools, 221104
There might be newer versions.

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1586
NWIP_ballot_documen of NP_Capabilities of build and deployment tools

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1571
Summary of PWI Build_Deploy_Tools_221104
(thats basically a presentation)

There might be more. It's still a bit hard for me to navigate the ISO
database, and I do not have the time I wish I would have for those topics.
So there might be more. However
I wonder if it has been considered to look over the boarder from SC 22 ,
see what's going on and try to create a liaison.

Especially in the context of the upcoming work on ecosystem-is.
--
Regards,
Harald
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