Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 07:37:21 -0500
Could you provide links so I could download the documents?
On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 4:13 AM Harald Achitz via SG15
<sg15_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> Did you have a look at any of the documents?
>
> My impression is, that, for example, a document called `Capabilities of build and deployment tools` has at least some relation to what we try to define here.
>
> That nobody there is specialized on C++ and that the point of view is a broader one is obvious.
>
> I just thought, given the fact that not too many people are very active here in SG15, and that there are people out there who care about the topic in general, it might be worth to see if there could be synergies.
>
> But if there is zero interest, then maybe not.
>
> I just fear, with the give resources, we will not come very far with any of the topics we wish would be addressed in the C++ eco system.
>
> /Harald
>
> On 2023-06-13 14:14, Michael Spencer wrote:
>
> The Ecosystem IS is currently focused on C++ specific issues that tools need to deal with. Looking at the entire list of published standards from SC 7/WG 4 starting in 1995, they are entirely focused on tools for aiding in "software engineering", where that is interpreted the same way as civil engineering. They do not work on any standards related to any tools that the Ecosystem IS would ever cover.
>
> - Michael Spencer
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 11:57 AM Harald Achitz via SG15 <sg15_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have a question
>>
>>
>>
>> There is ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4
>> which translates to Software and systems engineering/Tools and environment
>>
>> And there is ongoing work regarding build and deployment tools.
>>
>> I found some documents
>>
>> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1572
>> Base Document of PWI Build_Deployment_Tools, 221104
>> There might be newer versions.
>>
>> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1586
>> NWIP_ballot_documen of NP_Capabilities of build and deployment tools
>>
>> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1571
>> Summary of PWI Build_Deploy_Tools_221104
>> (thats basically a presentation)
>>
>> There might be more. It's still a bit hard for me to navigate the ISO
>> database, and I do not have the time I wish I would have for those topics.
>> So there might be more. However
>> I wonder if it has been considered to look over the boarder from SC 22 ,
>> see what's going on and try to create a liaison.
>>
>> Especially in the context of the upcoming work on ecosystem-is.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Harald
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On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 4:13 AM Harald Achitz via SG15
<sg15_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> Did you have a look at any of the documents?
>
> My impression is, that, for example, a document called `Capabilities of build and deployment tools` has at least some relation to what we try to define here.
>
> That nobody there is specialized on C++ and that the point of view is a broader one is obvious.
>
> I just thought, given the fact that not too many people are very active here in SG15, and that there are people out there who care about the topic in general, it might be worth to see if there could be synergies.
>
> But if there is zero interest, then maybe not.
>
> I just fear, with the give resources, we will not come very far with any of the topics we wish would be addressed in the C++ eco system.
>
> /Harald
>
> On 2023-06-13 14:14, Michael Spencer wrote:
>
> The Ecosystem IS is currently focused on C++ specific issues that tools need to deal with. Looking at the entire list of published standards from SC 7/WG 4 starting in 1995, they are entirely focused on tools for aiding in "software engineering", where that is interpreted the same way as civil engineering. They do not work on any standards related to any tools that the Ecosystem IS would ever cover.
>
> - Michael Spencer
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 11:57 AM Harald Achitz via SG15 <sg15_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have a question
>>
>>
>>
>> There is ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4
>> which translates to Software and systems engineering/Tools and environment
>>
>> And there is ongoing work regarding build and deployment tools.
>>
>> I found some documents
>>
>> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1572
>> Base Document of PWI Build_Deployment_Tools, 221104
>> There might be newer versions.
>>
>> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1586
>> NWIP_ballot_documen of NP_Capabilities of build and deployment tools
>>
>> ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 7/WG 4 N 1571
>> Summary of PWI Build_Deploy_Tools_221104
>> (thats basically a presentation)
>>
>> There might be more. It's still a bit hard for me to navigate the ISO
>> database, and I do not have the time I wish I would have for those topics.
>> So there might be more. However
>> I wonder if it has been considered to look over the boarder from SC 22 ,
>> see what's going on and try to create a liaison.
>>
>> Especially in the context of the upcoming work on ecosystem-is.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Harald
>> _______________________________________________
>> SG15 mailing list
>> SG15_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg15
>
> _______________________________________________
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