On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 at 00:08, Frederick Virchanza Gotham via Std-Proposals <
std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:17 PM Aurelien Cassagnes wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I dont know what you aim to do with this and i merely have the 1 or 2
> paper , regardless, I dont want it being ingested in that “thing”.
> >
> > Thanks & Cheers
> >
> > Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> Paper Kernel C++ will be free to download, free to use, and entirely
> open-source.
>
> I used Paper Kernel C++ just now to determine -- in about 5 seconds --
> that you've authored 7 papers: One revision of p3678, and six
> revisions of p3385. That literally took me about 5 seconds -- all I
> had to do was click your name on the Authors tab. I can also tell you
> that your name has no alternative forms -- i.e. it's never been
> encountered as "A. Cassagnes".
>

curl https://wg21.link/index.txt | grep Cassagnes

works for that too.




>
> I need to be very clear about something here -- not for a legal reason
> but more for a personal moral reason. If any of you wrote papers and
> uploaded them to your own personal webspace (like I have a few times),
> then I'd just leave them alone. They belong to you and I'm not going
> to go plundering other people's personal webspace. I am only dealing
> with papers that have been emailed to Nevin Lieber in order to get a
> document number and to enter the queue to be voted on. So if you've
> submitted a paper to the ISCO C++ committee, then you've put it out
> there to be scrutinised and managed by tens of thousands of C++
> programmers worldwide. I won't omit your submitted my papers from my
> program. What I'm doing here is "fair use", especially now since I
> became a member of WG21 this month and so I want to have a program to
> peruse and search through papers. Of course if I want something done
> right, I'll do it myself. Granted it will be open-source though so
> others will be free to tweak it as they wish.
>
> Britannica: https://www.britannica.com/topic/fair-use
>
> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
>
> Encyclopedia.com:
>
> https://www.encyclopedia.com/finance/finance-and-accounting-magazines/copyrights
>
> I'm willing to chat back and forth here with people who have qualms
> about their papers being embedded in my program, but really it's very
> unlikely that I'll fulfill anyone's request to remove their papers. In
> fact I'd have more moral qualms about removing someone's papers than I
> would about leaving them in. You can't just erase the history books
> like that. If you submit a C++ proposal papers, it's out there.


That's not how copyright works though.

Lots of authors have published books, but you can't copy them into a
database and redistribute them and claim fair use (I don't know if your
system does actually contain copies of anything, or if the user has to
supply it with all the papers to get it to do anything).