On 1/31/23 3:08 PM, Lee Shallis via Std-Proposals wrote:
> I tried looking for the C list but that link appears to have
> disappeared off the face of the internet as far as I can tell, I even
> tried using the original list I had signed up for only to be told by
> google the domain no longer exists, would greatly appreciate being
> pointed in the right direction, only went with this list because I
> couldn't find that list

The WG14 mailing list is restricted to WG14 members and others approved
by the WG14 chair.

I think this is a reasonable place to request feedback for C related
proposals; particularly for ones that are applicable to C++ as in this case.

Tom.

>
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 19:27, Jason McKesson via Std-Proposals
> <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 2:07 PM Bjorn Reese via Std-Proposals
>> <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>> On 1/31/23 19:51, Jonathan Wakely via Std-Proposals wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 18:48, Jason McKesson via Std-Proposals
>>>> <std-proposals_at_[hidden] <mailto:std-proposals_at_[hidden]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Why do we want to improve type-unsafe tools like `printf` when we have
>>>> type-safe tools like `std::format`? We don't quite have a scanf
>>>> equivalent yet, but it'd be better to work on that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And any changes to printf would have to go through the C committee
>>>> (WG14) not the C++ committee.
>>> It is possible to build a type-safe extension without the involvement
>>> of the C committee:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/rokudev/rostd/blob/main/doc/printx.adoc
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dg7dMRjyxI
>> That's just a library. Anybody can build a library and name their
>> functions whatever they want.
>>
>> If you want to call it "std::printf" (which is what this proposal is
>> talking about: changes to the function `std::printf`), then it must
>> first become part of C because that's where "std::printf" comes from.
>>
>> We already have a type-safe replacement for `printf`; I see no reason
>> to try to change printf when we could give those capabilities to our
>> replacement.
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