Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 10:14:05 +1100
Btw, I should apologize for throwing this completely new topic up fairly
late in the process. I don't want to hold up progress with it; my main
concern is that the initial graph proposal doesn't accidentally make it
difficult (or impossible) to add cardinal trees later.
>From my experience of trying to add them to Boost.Graph, it was not that
hard, so my concern might be unwarranted. But I think it's an important
special case of graphs to bear in mind from the beginning, also so that the
wider audience knows whether it is within the larger remit of the project
or not.
The design of trees in Elements of Programming is fundamentally different
to the design of graphs in Boost.Graph, so I think it's worth considering
whether there is something to be learned from it, or why not, etc.
Cheers.
Jeremy
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 at 05:09, Michael Wong via SG19 <sg19_at_[hidden]>
wrote:
> Thank you, Jeremy I like to gather the group's opinion first. But this
> seems a good paper to be seen.
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 9:52 AM Phil Ratzloff via SG19 <
> sg19_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> I haven’t looked into it at all because I’ve been consumed with what’s
>> there as it is.
>>
>> If you have some suggestion of ways to extend what’s there, please feel
>> I’m willing to listen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* SG19 <sg19-bounces_at_[hidden]> *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>> Murphy via SG19
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2024 3:29 AM
>> *To:* sg19_at_[hidden]
>> *Cc:* Jeremy Murphy <jeremy.william.murphy_at_[hidden]>
>> *Subject:* [isocpp-sg19] cardinal trees
>>
>>
>>
>> *EXTERNAL*
>>
>> Dear SG19,
>>
>> I had a quick look through the current papers and firstly just wanted to
>> quickly ask if you had given any thought to using this library for working
>> with cardinal trees?
>>
>> They don't exist in Boost.Graph; although one can obviously create a
>> structure that looks superficially like one, the concepts defining
>> efficient algorithms on them don't exist.
>>
>> There are some other libraries for creating a binary search tree, but
>> they're quite specific in purpose, not generic.
>>
>> The best treatment of the topic is in Elements of Programming by Stepanov
>> and McJones, which is freely available online.
>>
>> There is also a C++Now talk about adding binary trees to Boost.Graph that
>> explains the new concepts, etc.
>>
>> Thanks, cheers.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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late in the process. I don't want to hold up progress with it; my main
concern is that the initial graph proposal doesn't accidentally make it
difficult (or impossible) to add cardinal trees later.
>From my experience of trying to add them to Boost.Graph, it was not that
hard, so my concern might be unwarranted. But I think it's an important
special case of graphs to bear in mind from the beginning, also so that the
wider audience knows whether it is within the larger remit of the project
or not.
The design of trees in Elements of Programming is fundamentally different
to the design of graphs in Boost.Graph, so I think it's worth considering
whether there is something to be learned from it, or why not, etc.
Cheers.
Jeremy
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 at 05:09, Michael Wong via SG19 <sg19_at_[hidden]>
wrote:
> Thank you, Jeremy I like to gather the group's opinion first. But this
> seems a good paper to be seen.
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 9:52 AM Phil Ratzloff via SG19 <
> sg19_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> I haven’t looked into it at all because I’ve been consumed with what’s
>> there as it is.
>>
>> If you have some suggestion of ways to extend what’s there, please feel
>> I’m willing to listen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* SG19 <sg19-bounces_at_[hidden]> *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>> Murphy via SG19
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2024 3:29 AM
>> *To:* sg19_at_[hidden]
>> *Cc:* Jeremy Murphy <jeremy.william.murphy_at_[hidden]>
>> *Subject:* [isocpp-sg19] cardinal trees
>>
>>
>>
>> *EXTERNAL*
>>
>> Dear SG19,
>>
>> I had a quick look through the current papers and firstly just wanted to
>> quickly ask if you had given any thought to using this library for working
>> with cardinal trees?
>>
>> They don't exist in Boost.Graph; although one can obviously create a
>> structure that looks superficially like one, the concepts defining
>> efficient algorithms on them don't exist.
>>
>> There are some other libraries for creating a binary search tree, but
>> they're quite specific in purpose, not generic.
>>
>> The best treatment of the topic is in Elements of Programming by Stepanov
>> and McJones, which is freely available online.
>>
>> There is also a C++Now talk about adding binary trees to Boost.Graph that
>> explains the new concepts, etc.
>>
>> Thanks, cheers.
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> SG19_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg19
>>
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