Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2024 11:57:55 -0700
> I've tentatively added further discussion to my list of topics for the
10/23 meeting.
Sounds good, thanks.
- Victor
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:50 AM Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On 10/9/24 9:41 AM, Victor Zverovich wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Can we finish the review of P2019 Thread Attributes? The end of the last
> meeting was a bit rushed because we ran out of time and I don't think we
> even went through all the poll candidates.
>
> I don't mind continuing discussion on it if we have time left over today,
> but I'll be surprised if that is the case.
>
> I don't have other poll candidates for P2019 at the moment, but I agree
> that there is more to discuss. I don't think we resolved questions of
> behavior on POSIX vs Windows platforms and I believe you raised some
> possible concerns with the use of string_view that weren't discussed. If
> there are other items, please let me know. I've tentatively added further
> discussion to my list of topics for the 10/23 meeting.
>
> Tom.
>
>
> - Victor
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 2:28 PM Tom Honermann via SG16 <
> sg16_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> SG16 will hold a meeting *tomorrow*, Wednesday, October 9th, at 19:30
>> UTC (timezone conversion
>> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20241009T193000&p1=1440&p2=tz_pdt&p3=tz_mdt&p4=tz_cdt&p5=tz_edt&p6=tz_cest>
>> ).
>>
>> The agenda follows.
>>
>> - P3094R3: std::basic_fixed_string <https://wg21.link/p3094r3>
>> - P3045R1: Quantities and units library <https://wg21.link/p3045r1>
>> - P3258R0: Formatting of charN_t <https://wg21.link/p3258r0>
>>
>> SG16 has not previously reviewed P3094, but did discuss a fixed_string
>> type in the context of a predecessor paper, P2980R0 (A motivation,
>> scope, and plan for a physical quantities and units library)
>> <https://wg21.link/p2980r0> during its 2023-11-29 meeting
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README-2023.md#november-29th-2023>.
>> Since we're fairly familiar with the subject matter, so I'll ask Mateusz to
>> provide a brief overview and we'll move on to discussion of any concerns.
>> SG16 has not previously polled this paper or its predecessor; the LEWG
>> chair will be looking for SG16 to bless this paper even if we don't see
>> SG16 specific concerns to ensure this paper is ready for progress in
>> Wrocław.
>>
>> SG16 reviewed previous revisions of P3045 during its 2023-11-29 meeting
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README-2023.md#november-29th-2023>
>> and 2024-01-24 meeting
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README.md#january-24th-2024>.
>> Previous discussion concerned which encodings to support and representation
>> for symbols, particularly those not represented in the basic character
>> sets. Mateusz can provide an overview of the changes and any relevant
>> design changes that have been made. The LEWG chair will also be looking for
>> SG16 to determine if there are any lingering SG16 concerns that would
>> prevent this paper progressing at Wrocław.
>>
>> P3258R0 comes to us courtesy of Corentin and seeks to achieve what most
>> people expect to be trivial but which we have always known to be
>> impossible; provide formatting and I/O support for text in char*N*_t,
>> sort of, as limited by the characters representable in the ordinary and
>> wide literal encodings. Corentin to provide an overview and frown while the
>> rest of us quibble about transcoding details and locale encodings and,
>> probably, reluctantly, conclude that the behavior Corentin has proposed is
>> how things should be.
>>
>> Tom.
>> --
>> SG16 mailing list
>> SG16_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg16
>>
>
10/23 meeting.
Sounds good, thanks.
- Victor
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 11:50 AM Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On 10/9/24 9:41 AM, Victor Zverovich wrote:
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Can we finish the review of P2019 Thread Attributes? The end of the last
> meeting was a bit rushed because we ran out of time and I don't think we
> even went through all the poll candidates.
>
> I don't mind continuing discussion on it if we have time left over today,
> but I'll be surprised if that is the case.
>
> I don't have other poll candidates for P2019 at the moment, but I agree
> that there is more to discuss. I don't think we resolved questions of
> behavior on POSIX vs Windows platforms and I believe you raised some
> possible concerns with the use of string_view that weren't discussed. If
> there are other items, please let me know. I've tentatively added further
> discussion to my list of topics for the 10/23 meeting.
>
> Tom.
>
>
> - Victor
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 2:28 PM Tom Honermann via SG16 <
> sg16_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> SG16 will hold a meeting *tomorrow*, Wednesday, October 9th, at 19:30
>> UTC (timezone conversion
>> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20241009T193000&p1=1440&p2=tz_pdt&p3=tz_mdt&p4=tz_cdt&p5=tz_edt&p6=tz_cest>
>> ).
>>
>> The agenda follows.
>>
>> - P3094R3: std::basic_fixed_string <https://wg21.link/p3094r3>
>> - P3045R1: Quantities and units library <https://wg21.link/p3045r1>
>> - P3258R0: Formatting of charN_t <https://wg21.link/p3258r0>
>>
>> SG16 has not previously reviewed P3094, but did discuss a fixed_string
>> type in the context of a predecessor paper, P2980R0 (A motivation,
>> scope, and plan for a physical quantities and units library)
>> <https://wg21.link/p2980r0> during its 2023-11-29 meeting
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README-2023.md#november-29th-2023>.
>> Since we're fairly familiar with the subject matter, so I'll ask Mateusz to
>> provide a brief overview and we'll move on to discussion of any concerns.
>> SG16 has not previously polled this paper or its predecessor; the LEWG
>> chair will be looking for SG16 to bless this paper even if we don't see
>> SG16 specific concerns to ensure this paper is ready for progress in
>> Wrocław.
>>
>> SG16 reviewed previous revisions of P3045 during its 2023-11-29 meeting
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README-2023.md#november-29th-2023>
>> and 2024-01-24 meeting
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README.md#january-24th-2024>.
>> Previous discussion concerned which encodings to support and representation
>> for symbols, particularly those not represented in the basic character
>> sets. Mateusz can provide an overview of the changes and any relevant
>> design changes that have been made. The LEWG chair will also be looking for
>> SG16 to determine if there are any lingering SG16 concerns that would
>> prevent this paper progressing at Wrocław.
>>
>> P3258R0 comes to us courtesy of Corentin and seeks to achieve what most
>> people expect to be trivial but which we have always known to be
>> impossible; provide formatting and I/O support for text in char*N*_t,
>> sort of, as limited by the characters representable in the ordinary and
>> wide literal encodings. Corentin to provide an overview and frown while the
>> rest of us quibble about transcoding details and locale encodings and,
>> probably, reluctantly, conclude that the behavior Corentin has proposed is
>> how things should be.
>>
>> Tom.
>> --
>> SG16 mailing list
>> SG16_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg16
>>
>
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