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Re: [SG16] Agenda for the 2021-07-28 SG16 telecon

From: Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 00:17:05 -0400
Reminder that we are meeting tomorrow (or later today for some of us;
sorry for the late reminder).


On 7/25/21 9:10 PM, Tom Honermann via SG16 wrote:
> Oops, I see I forgot to correct the date when I pasted the first line
> below. This telecon will, of course, be held on July 28th as stated
> in the email subject. If I ever come across a time machine, I suspect
> I'll find better uses for it than scheduling meetings in the past.
> Also, I neglected to mention a LWG 3565 related email thread initiated
> by Peter last month; please also review
> https://lists.isocpp.org/sg16/2021/06/2444.php
> <https://lists.isocpp.org/sg16/2021/06/2444.php> prior to the meeting
> (and my apologies again for the damaged archive encoding).
> Tom.
> On 7/24/21 4:54 PM, Tom Honermann via SG16 wrote:
>> SG16 will hold a telecon on Wednesday, July 14th at 19:30 UTC
>> (timezone conversion
>> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210728T193000&p1=1440&p2=tz_pdt&p3=tz_mdt&p4=tz_cdt&p5=tz_edt&p6=tz_cest>).
>> * LWG 3565: Handling of encodings in localized formatting of chrono
>> types is underspecified <https://cplusplus.github.io/LWG/issue3565>
>> o Discuss and poll the proposed resolution.
>> * P2348R0: Whitespaces Wording Revamp <https://wg21.link/p2348r0>
>> Our challenges finding consensus for various aspects of P2093 as
>> discussed during our May 12th
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings#may-12th-2021>, May
>> 26th <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings#may-26th-2021>,
>> June 9th
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings#june-9th-2021>, and
>> June 23rd
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings#june-23rd-2021>
>> telecons has me concerned about finding consensus for a resolution to
>> LWG 3565. Please re-read the P2093 related minutes and polls in
>> those telecons prior to the meeting to refresh your memory of the
>> encoding related concerns previously discussed and polled. Any
>> decision reached on LWG 3565 is likely to be adopted by implementors
>> in their C++20 conforming modes, and may serve as a precedent for
>> P2093 and other future papers, so it is important that we get this
>> right. Note that the proposed resolution does not address wide
>> string support (e.g., whether transcoding is performed for
>> std::format(L"День недели: {}", std::chrono::Monday)). It would be
>> useful for us to start discussion with a review of what current
>> implementations actually do.
>> If we are fortunate enough to dispense with LWG 3565, we'll discuss
>> P2348R0. We have not previously discussed this paper, but we
>> previously discussed the topic when discussing P2178R1 proposal 2
>> during our August 26th, 2020 telecon
>> <https://github.com/sg16-unicode/sg16-meetings/blob/master/README-2020.md#august-26th-2020>.
>> I don't anticipate the motivation for this paper being contentious,
>> so please be prepared to discuss the proposed wording changes.
>> Tom.

Received on 2021-07-27 23:17:09