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Re: [isocpp-sg15] C++ Modules and Macros

From: Peter C++ <peter.cpp_at_[hidden]>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 09:51:16 +0100
James

have you considered the compiler command line option -include file for your problem?

I know, this doesn't show in the source, but could come handy for global macros. 

sent from a mobile device so please excuse strange words due to autocorrection. 
Peter Sommerlad
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On 3 Dec 2024, at 09:32, James via SG15 <sg15_at_[hidden]> wrote:


I see. My issue is basically "export import <foo.h>;" is not working as expected. Meaning every single file that needs to use that macro must know about foo.h, a module can't recursively export them. Also as far as I understand, that syntax still requires foo.h to be contained in an include path or the same directory as the current file, you don't need to know anything about file structure or have include paths in normal module files. These might seem trivial, but consider you have some globally required macros.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 11:14 AM Daniela Engert <dani_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> James <james.business.84_at_[hidden]> hat am 03.12.2024 08:50 CET geschrieben:
>
>
> Can you give an example of "header units"? I can't find an example of that.

you might want to look at http://eel.is/c++draft/cpp.import or http://eel.is/c++draft/module#import-5

> If I understand correctly, you mean I can have a header unit "foo" which can be imported from "main.cpp" and "main.cpp" can access macros, right?
> ```cpp
> import foo;
> constexpr int val = SOME_MACRO_FROM_FOO;
> ```

Pretty close, you need to massage your import a bit



>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 9:39 AM Daniela Engert <dani_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> >
> >  > James via SG15 <sg15_at_[hidden]> hat am 03.12.2024 07:04 CET geschrieben:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > While working with C++ modules, I’ve noticed there’s currently no way to export macros from a module. Even if you wanted to opt into this, there’s no mechanism available.
> > 
> >  This is not exactly correct: the mechanism to export macros from modules is called "header units".
> > 
> >  > Given that macros are still essential for tasks like conditional compilation, this feels like a limitation. While macros can be controversial, they do help avoid repetitive and error-prone boilerplate in certain cases.
> >  > Using headers is still an option, but it somewhat defeats the purpose of modules since each header needs to be parsed and preprocessed for every translation unit.
> > 
> >  The "easy" way around such perceived limitations is wrapping the module into a tiny header which implicitly imports the module, and brings a set of macros with it.
> > 
> >  > PCHs can help, but they’re limited to a single PCH per project and require additional setup.
> >  > I’d like to see a solution to this, but I’m unsure of the best path forward. Here are a few ideas I’ve considered:
> >  > 1-) Allow exporting macros from modules (perhaps with a special directive like "#define_export").
> >  > 2-) Enhance PCHs to be importable from consumed libraries. (meaning consumers will have both their own PCH(if there is one) and also consumed libraries' PCH precompiled)
> >  > 3-) Introduce a mechanism for exporting macros from modules that are preprocessed only once.
> > 
> >  My experiences from working with modules for the past 6 years, and having them in production for nearly 3 years, never gave rise to advocate *language* changes similar to your ideas. But may be my use cases are just different.
> > 
> >  Dani
> >
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