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Subject: Re: May 13 SG14 monthly call agenda
From: Michael Wong (fraggamuffin_at_[hidden])
Date: 2020-05-13 12:59:38


Updated agenda:

Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly. Hi all, I have turned on high security for
this call in light of recent events.

Hi,

Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: SG14 monthly Apr 2020-Oct 2020
Time: Apr 8, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: May 13, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: June 10, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Jul 8, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Aug 12, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Sep 9, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Oct 14, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
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Agenda:

1. Opening and introductions

1.1 Roll call of participants

1.2 Adopt agenda

1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
 previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

Discuss inverted meeting for June

Mailing deadline is monthly on 15th

All meetings going online.

2.2 Paper reviews

P2057r0
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2057r0.pdf> SG14
SG19 Past, Present and Future status Michael Wong Michael Wong et al.

D2057R1:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LmBo46a7meB-QH-ZxLbxQMinAaJMvKOjR4gssuaEL18/edit#

Herb's Assumptions paper:

http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2064r0.pdf

2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?

Discuss future direction of detreministic C++ exception group :

Low-cost Deterministic C++ Exceptions for Embedded Systems
<
https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/portal/files/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf>

Low-cost
Deterministic C++ Exceptions for Embedded Systems James Renwick James
Renwick et al.

2.3 Domain-specific discussions

2.3.1 SIG chairs

   - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
   Holmes, John McFarlane
   <
http://wiki.edg.com/bin/edit/Wg21belfast/McFarlane?topicparent=Wg21belfast.SG14CPPCON2019-09-17;nowysiwyg=1>

   - Financial/Trading chairs: Stephan TJ, Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
   Mateusz Pusz, Clay Trychta,
   - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson
   - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson

2.4 Other Papers and proposals

2.5 Future F2F meetings:

2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings

- 2020-11: (New York, tentative)
- 2021-02-22 to 27: Kona, HI, USA

3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/

Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)

5. Closing process

5.1 Establish next agenda

5.2 Future meeting

Time: June 10, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Jul 8, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Aug 12, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Sep 9, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Time: Oct 14, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:51 PM Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> I'm interested. Thanks John, we are light on agenda this month so I am
> adding this to the discussion. Thanks.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:46 PM John McFarlane <john_at_[hidden]>
> wrote:
>
>> It's a little late -- both for this meeting and -- because it came out
>> two mailings ago but is anyone interested in a brief discussion of Herb's
>> P2064R0
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2064r0.pdf> Assumptions?
>> More generally, does anyone on SG14 think that contracts are a topic of
>> interest for our domains?
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 18:17, Michael Wong via SG14 <
>> sg14_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> Good point. I will in future. This should be 1800 UTC. Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:54 PM Guy Cpp via SG14 <sg14_at_[hidden]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Small nit: would it be possible to list times in UTC rather than
>>>> locally adjusted times? I have a calendar appointment that says 18:00 BST
>>>> but I'm pretty sure it's 19:00 BST, ET+5. UTC would clear this all up (I
>>>> assume it's an old recurring calendar appointment).
>>>>
>>>> See you at... 19:00? 18:00 UTC?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 14:55, Michael Wong via SG14 <
>>>> sg14_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly. Hi all, I have turned on high
>>>>> security for
>>>>> this call in light of recent events.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Topic: SG14 monthly Apr 2020-Oct 2020
>>>>> Time: Apr 8, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: May 13, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: June 10, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Jul 8, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Aug 12, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Sep 9, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Oct 14, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
>>>>> https://iso.zoom.us/j/819108882?pwd=L0pPZm5QRWlTYXdJditvU1JLdjFYUT09
>>>>> Password: 013549
>>>>>
>>>>> Or iPhone one-tap :
>>>>> US: +13462487799,,819108882# or +14086380968,,819108882#
>>>>> Or Telephone:
>>>>> Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current
>>>>> location):
>>>>> US: +1 346 248 7799 or +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 669 900 6833 or +1 253 215 8782 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799
>>>>> or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free)
>>>>> Meeting ID: 819 108 882
>>>>> Password: 013549
>>>>> International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abhaIjFKLZ
>>>>>
>>>>> Or Skype for Business (Lync):
>>>>> https://iso.zoom.us/skype/819108882
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Opening and introductions
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.1 Roll call of participants
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.2 Adopt agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
>>>>> previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.4 Action items from previous meetings
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Main issues (125 min)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.1 General logistics
>>>>>
>>>>> Discuss inverted meeting for June
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailing deadline is monthly on 15th
>>>>>
>>>>> All meetings going online.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.2 Paper reviews
>>>>>
>>>>> P2057r0
>>>>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2057r0.pdf>
>>>>> SG14
>>>>> SG19 Past, Present and Future status Michael Wong Michael Wong et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?
>>>>>
>>>>> Discuss future direction of detreministic C++ exception group :
>>>>>
>>>>> Low-cost Deterministic C++ Exceptions for Embedded Systems
>>>>> <
>>>>> https://www.research.ed.ac.uk/portal/files/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>> Low-cost
>>>>> Deterministic C++ Exceptions for Embedded Systems James Renwick James
>>>>> Renwick et al.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.3 Domain-specific discussions
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.3.1 SIG chairs
>>>>>
>>>>> - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and
>>>>> Odin
>>>>> Holmes, John McFarlane
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.edg.com/bin/edit/Wg21belfast/McFarlane?topicparent=Wg21belfast.SG14CPPCON2019-09-17;nowysiwyg=1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Financial/Trading chairs: Stephan TJ, Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
>>>>> Mateusz Pusz, Clay Trychta,
>>>>> - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson
>>>>> - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.4 Other Papers and proposals
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.5 Future F2F meetings:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
>>>>> https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
>>>>>
>>>>> - 2020-11: (New York, tentative)
>>>>> - 2021-02-22 to 27: Kona, HI, USA
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Any other business
>>>>> Reflector
>>>>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
>>>>> As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards
>>>>> committee
>>>>> paper mailings:
>>>>> http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
>>>>> http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/
>>>>>
>>>>> Code and proposal Staging area
>>>>> https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
>>>>> 4. Review
>>>>>
>>>>> 4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
>>>>> working draft]
>>>>>
>>>>> 4.2 Review action items (5 min)
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Closing process
>>>>>
>>>>> 5.1 Establish next agenda
>>>>>
>>>>> 5.2 Future meeting
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: June 10, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Jul 8, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Aug 12, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Sep 9, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time: Oct 14, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> SG14 mailing list
>>>>> SG14_at_[hidden]
>>>>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
>>>>>
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