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Subject: Re: SG14 Apr 17 Monthly meeting
From: Michael Wong (fraggamuffin_at_[hidden])
Date: 2019-04-17 07:42:13


Sorry I need to add Niall's paper to the Pointer providence discussion. I
have already linked to Hal's paper and Paul McKenney's paper.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 8:38 AM Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> Hi we are switching to Zoom instead of Webex for our SG14 meetings. Please
> let me know if there are additional agenda items.
>
> Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>
> Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly
> Join URL: https://iso.zoom.us/j/406503386
> Time: Apr 17, 2019 2:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
> Apr 17, 2019 2:00 PM
> May 8, 2019 2:00 PM
> Jun 12, 2019 2:00 PM
> Jul 10, 2019 2:00 PM
> Aug 14, 2019 2:00 PM
> Sep 11, 2019 2:00 PM
> Oct 9, 2019 2:00 PM
> Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to
> your calendar system.
> Monthly:
> https://iso.zoom.us/meeting/406503386/ics?icsToken=8d46c9bf03730dd553cc4f9306ceedfc45867014725c0aca989cb39d9602ae7c
>
> Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android: https://iso.zoom.us/j/406503386
>
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> Or Telephone:
> Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current
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>
> Or Skype for Business (Lync):
> https://iso.zoom.us/skype/406503386
>
>
> Agenda:
>
> 1. Opening and introductions
>
> 1.1 Roll call of participants
>
>
> 1.2 Adopt agenda
>
>
> 1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
> previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
>
> 1.4 Action items from previous meetings
>
> 2. Main issues (125 min)
>
> 2.1 General logistics
>
> Review last call discussions.
>
>
> 2.2 Paper reviews
> 2.2.1 Embedded/freestanding vs hosted Summary of freestanding evening
> session discussions
> http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21kona2019/SG14FreestandingImplementations
>
> Outcome from Dec call:
> In the SG14 session, he mentioned 2 that he prefers
> * Freestanding is signal / interrupt safe
> * Freestanding requires no special dispensation from the operating
> environment above what freestanding C99 requires
>
> But there are other possible directions
> * Freestanding should be as small as possible
> * Freestanding has all the same core language features as hosted
>
> Nov Evening Session:
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2018/p1376r0.html
>
>
> 2.2.2 Pointer Provedence:
>
> Pointer Provenance. I know this is a WG14 paper. But there is now interest
> in following this with a WG21 paper.
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2369.pdf
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2369.pdf&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1555590655253000&usg=AFQjCNEA6AjXuTUdhbL8PtTJyYfBGcrhzQ>
>
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2019/p1434r0.html
>
>
> https://dedi5.nedprod.com/static/files/other/Dxxxx%20draft%202%20-%20Enhanced%20C%2B%2B%20memory%20and%20object%20model.pdf
>
> 2.2.3 Linear Algebra update from April 3rd
> http://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2019/04/0076.php
>
> Next call: May 1 3 PM ET
>
> 2.2.4: Any serious study on cost of Exception vs cost of Error Codes
>
>
> 2.2.5 any other proposal for reviews?
>
>
> 2.3 Domain-specific discussions
>
> 2.3.1 Embedded domain discussions: Ben Craig, Wooter and Odin Holmes
> 2.3.3 Games Domain: John McFarlane, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson
> 2.3.4 Finance Domain: Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock, Mateusz Pusz and Clay
> Trychta
>
> 2.4 Other Papers and proposals
>
>
> 2.5 Future F2F meetings:
>
> 2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
> https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
>
> - *2019-07-15 to 20: Cologne, Germany; *Nicolai Josuttis
> - *2019-11-04 to 09: Belfast, Northern Ireland;* Archer Yates
> -
> - 2020-02-10 to 15: Prague, Czech Republic
>
>
> - 2020-06-01 to 06: Bulgaria
> - 2020-11: (New York, tentative)
> - 2021-02-22 to 27: Kona, HI, USA
>
> 3. Any other business
> Reflector
> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/sg14
> As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
> paper mailings:
> http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
> http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/
>
> Code and proposal Staging area
> https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
> 4. Review
>
> 4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
> working draft]
>
> 4.2 Review action items (5 min)
>
>
> 5. Closing process
>
>
> 5.1 Establish next agenda
>
> May 8
>
>
> 5.2 Future meeting
> Apr 17: todays call
> May 8
> June 12: June 17 mailing deadline
> July 10: likely cancelled due to Cologne Meeting July 15
>
>



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