Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 08:26:49 +0500
The benchmarking tools that you (Breno Guimarães )
suggested didn't work because they do compile time optimizations on the
indexing itself (if the index can be determined at compile time), and when
I tried to make them read the index, it didn't work as expected, hence it
will take some time for me to write my own benchmarking code..
To the response I got from a very senior person, I wanna say that even
though this idea might not be within the logical framework of C++, I would
still push for it until there is a mathematical proof to specify otherwise.
I hope this isnt disrespect. Sorry for the delay on benchmarks too, guys; I
was busy eating breakfast.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 8:24 AM Muneem <itfllow123_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> Before I add some code, I wanna specify that I know references are the
> same as pointers,but compilers can (in theory optimize them better because
> they are like constant pointers).
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 6:35 AM Breno Guimarães <brenorg_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Try adding actual code showing the problem and how it looks like with the
>> different options you claim de be not sufficient and how the code would
>> look like with your solutions.
>>
>> There are many wrong assumptions on how things work today. I honestly
>> cannot understand what you are actually proposing.
>>
>> Em qua., 1 de abr. de 2026, 20:37, Muneem via Std-Proposals <
>> std-proposals_at_[hidden]> escreveu:
>>
>>> This is the updated proposal
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 1:45 AM Muneem <itfllow123_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I will draft a format proposal that outline all the problems (a
>>>> whole class of problems), cite all the possible solutions, and then cite
>>>> bjarne Stroustrup quotes from his old 2013 book to back my philosophy up.
>>>> Give me some time and thank you for your feedback ❤️❤️
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Muneem
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2026, 1:15 am Thiago Macieira via Std-Proposals, <
>>>> std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 1 April 2026 10:52:08 Pacific Daylight Time Muneem via
>>>>> Std-
>>>>> Proposals wrote:
>>>>> > Okay, I won't make the JIT part in my proposal, but just so I know,
>>>>> you do
>>>>> > support me if I dont? Like you will vouch for me and help me in my
>>>>> actual
>>>>> > formal proposal?
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't understood the problem yet. You need to start the proposal
>>>>> with the
>>>>> problems (plural) that need solving, preferably with multiple possible
>>>>> alternatives and showing why you think your solution is best.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
>>>>> Principal Engineer - Intel Data Center - Platform & Sys. Eng.
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>>>>>
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>>>
>>
suggested didn't work because they do compile time optimizations on the
indexing itself (if the index can be determined at compile time), and when
I tried to make them read the index, it didn't work as expected, hence it
will take some time for me to write my own benchmarking code..
To the response I got from a very senior person, I wanna say that even
though this idea might not be within the logical framework of C++, I would
still push for it until there is a mathematical proof to specify otherwise.
I hope this isnt disrespect. Sorry for the delay on benchmarks too, guys; I
was busy eating breakfast.
On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 8:24 AM Muneem <itfllow123_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> Before I add some code, I wanna specify that I know references are the
> same as pointers,but compilers can (in theory optimize them better because
> they are like constant pointers).
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 6:35 AM Breno Guimarães <brenorg_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Try adding actual code showing the problem and how it looks like with the
>> different options you claim de be not sufficient and how the code would
>> look like with your solutions.
>>
>> There are many wrong assumptions on how things work today. I honestly
>> cannot understand what you are actually proposing.
>>
>> Em qua., 1 de abr. de 2026, 20:37, Muneem via Std-Proposals <
>> std-proposals_at_[hidden]> escreveu:
>>
>>> This is the updated proposal
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2026 at 1:45 AM Muneem <itfllow123_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I will draft a format proposal that outline all the problems (a
>>>> whole class of problems), cite all the possible solutions, and then cite
>>>> bjarne Stroustrup quotes from his old 2013 book to back my philosophy up.
>>>> Give me some time and thank you for your feedback ❤️❤️
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Muneem
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2026, 1:15 am Thiago Macieira via Std-Proposals, <
>>>> std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 1 April 2026 10:52:08 Pacific Daylight Time Muneem via
>>>>> Std-
>>>>> Proposals wrote:
>>>>> > Okay, I won't make the JIT part in my proposal, but just so I know,
>>>>> you do
>>>>> > support me if I dont? Like you will vouch for me and help me in my
>>>>> actual
>>>>> > formal proposal?
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't understood the problem yet. You need to start the proposal
>>>>> with the
>>>>> problems (plural) that need solving, preferably with multiple possible
>>>>> alternatives and showing why you think your solution is best.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
>>>>> Principal Engineer - Intel Data Center - Platform & Sys. Eng.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Std-Proposals mailing list
>>>>> Std-Proposals_at_[hidden]
>>>>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/std-proposals
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Std-Proposals mailing list
>>> Std-Proposals_at_[hidden]
>>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/std-proposals
>>>
>>
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