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Re: [std-proposals] AI (was: : Re: [PXXXXR0] Add a New Keyword ¡®undecl¡¯)

From: Kim Eloy <eloy.kim_at_[hidden]>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 15:22:48 +0000
You all only care about AI, instead of professional cpp discussion. I could clearly think your reply is not professional.
And, for those syntax errors, you can reply me your compilation arguments and hear file contents. I could easily know you just copy the header file code from email content instead of GitHub.
If you I could run on my phone with just including std libs and could not run on your computer, I doubt how you learn and use cpp.
I learn not just cpp. I learn more with you.

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From: Std-Proposals <std-proposals-bounces_at_lists.isocpp.org> on behalf of Alejandro Colomar via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2025 9:41:32 PM
To: Tiago Freire via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <une+cxx_std-proposals_at_[hidden]>
Subject: Re: [std-proposals] AI (was: : Re: [PXXXXR0] Add a New Keyword ¡®undecl¡¯)

Hi Thiago,

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 11:05:24AM +0000, Tiago Freire via Std-Proposals wrote:
> I think we should send a clear message that AI slop will not be tolerated.
> If it does not warrant the OP¡¯s time and effort to advance a proposal, and they are just going to delegate it to AI to hallucinate whatever, then it should not warrant the time for a human to look at the proposal.
>
> Or else we are just going to fall victims to a thousand slops. Every person with an access to a computer can just opine and pretend to be an expert on topics that they know nothing about just because they have an AI-LLM subscription.
>
> This is frankly getting quite annoying and I wish these people would just go away.

+1

Here's the anti-AI policy we have in the Linux man-pages project, in
case you want to copy it.
<https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git/tree/CONTRIBUTING.d/ai>

I'll paste it below in its entirety.


Have a lovely day!
Alex

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Name
        AI - artificial intelligence policy

Description
        It is expressly forbidden to contribute to this project any
        content that has been created or derived with the assistance of
        AI tools.

        This includes AI assistive tools used in the contributing
        process, even if such tools do not directly generate the
        contributed code but are used to derive the contribution. For
        example, AI linters, AI static analyzers, and AI tools that
        summarize input are forbidden.

    Exceptions
        As an exception to the above, AI assistive tools which don't
        have any influence on the contribution other than enabling the
        contributor to work with their computer (e.g., screen reader,
        text to speech) --where the contributor verifies the output to
        the best of their ability-- are allowed, and the contributor
        need not disclose their use.

    Concerns
        Copyright concerns.
                At this point, the regulations concerning copyright of
                generated contents are still emerging worldwide. Using
                such material could pose a danger of copyright
                violations, but it could also weaken claims to copyright
                and void the guarantees given by copyleft licensing.

        Quality concerns.
                Popular LLMs are really great at generating plausibly
                looking, but meaningless content. They pose both the
                risk of lowering the quality of a project, and of
                requiring an unfair human effort from contributors and
                maintainers to review contributions and detect the
                mistakes resulting from the use of AI.

        Ethical concerns.
                The business side of AI boom is creating serious ethical
                concerns. Among them:

                - Commercial AI projects are frequently indulging in
                   blatant copyright violations to train their models.
                - Their operations are causing concerns about the huge
                   use of energy, water, and other natural resources.
                - The advertising and use of AI models has caused
                   a significant harm to employees and reduction of
                   service quality.
                - LLMs have been empowering all kinds of spam and scam
                   efforts.

Caveats
        This policy can be revisited, should a case be made over such
        a tool that does not pose copyright, quality, or ethical
        concerns.

Copyright
        Text derived from --but different than-- the Gentoo project
        AI policy
        <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy>.

        SPDX-License-Identifier: CC-BY-SA-4.0

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<https://www.alejandro-colomar.es>

Received on 2025-12-18 15:22:52