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Re: [std-proposals] AI (was: : Re: [PXXXXR0] Add a New Keyword ‘undecl’)

From: Tiago Freire <tmiguelf_at_[hidden]>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2025 11:05:24 +0000
I think we should send a clear message that AI slop will not be tolerated.
If it does not warrant the OP’s time and effort to advance a proposal, and they are just going to delegate it to AI to hallucinate whatever, then it should not warrant the time for a human to look at the proposal.

Or else we are just going to fall victims to a thousand slops. Every person with an access to a computer can just opine and pretend to be an expert on topics that they know nothing about just because they have an AI-LLM subscription.

This is frankly getting quite annoying and I wish these people would just go away.


From: Std-Proposals <std-proposals-bounces_at_[hidden]> On Behalf Of Sebastian Wittmeier via Std-Proposals
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2025 10:35
To: C++ Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Sebastian Wittmeier <wittmeier_at_[hidden]>
Subject: Re: [std-proposals] AI (was: : Re: [PXXXXR0] Add a New Keyword ‘undecl’)


To create a C++ library, it does not have to be in the standard library. It is not necessary for you to go through this list. Most public libraries have not.

This is only for proposals for parts going into the standard library and be parts of "the compiler" itself. And that is why here is a high bar for any software to be included.

It is not the same as the package repository of other languages, it is as if you want to be part of Java java.util and you see it is short enough

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/package-summary.html



Many members of this list found it insulting for you to just use an AI/LLM to answer on this list. And I am not talking about the translation, but the sentences you formulated. For example, you did not answer many direct questions, but outputted long AI generated paragraphs.



In many other situations it is enough to use an AI and be seen everywhere as competent. It won't be enough on this list, as many questions will go beyond the limit of an AI. Perhaps that sounds arrogant, but just using a tool and expecting respect is as well. And for the ISO process and proposals it is forbidden for legal reasons. I wrote about it in past messages, but you never even did answer to that.

I recommend to you to continue with your library on Github. So it is shared and can be used by anybody for projects. If you used AI to write source code, you should probably mention it in the readme and/or license file.

The idea and code is not suitable for standardization as is (in my opinion).



> Understand my source code, AI could not do, how about you all?

To be honest, probably most on this list can - without internet or any tool help.




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Kim Eloy via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]<mailto:std-proposals_at_[hidden]>>
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Betreff: Re: [std-proposals] AI (was: : Re: [PXXXXR0] Add a New Keyword ‘undecl’)
An: Jonathan Wakely <cxx_at_[hidden]<mailto:cxx_at_[hidden]>>; C++ Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]<mailto:std-proposals_at_[hidden]>>;
CC: Kim Eloy <eloy.kim_at_[hidden]ok.com<mailto:eloy.kim_at_[hidden]>>;
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My emotions in previous emails, and the grammar mistakes, are the proof for me existing as a person.
I don't care how you all define me, but my project, masterpiece of me, the proof for me for surviving from these years day and night, has taken me too much time.
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Received on 2025-12-18 11:05:32