Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 12:14:17 +0100
That's trueAll proposal have 5 implicit stages for acceptance.1- backward compatibility 2- ABI stability3- effeciency (abstraction cost)4- future extensibility.5- time to adoption.And most of the proposal dies at stage 2.Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Andrey Semashev via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> Date: 11/23/25 11:52 AM (GMT+01:00) To: std-proposals_at_[hidden] Cc: Andrey Semashev <andrey.semashev_at_[hidden]> Subject: Re: [std-proposals] The most fair rant on C++ On 23 Nov 2025 00:30, Thiago Macieira via Std-Proposals wrote:> > ABI is currently not part of the Standard.This is not entirely true. I'm sure you know that proposals and designdecisions are evaluated with ABI stability in mind, and sometimesotherwise valid proposals are rejected (or not written in the firstplace) because they would break ABI.Just an example of this that I recently came upon:https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/cwg_defects.html#2094And this isn't just about the Standard, this affects implementations aswell, and to even stronger degree.-- Std-Proposals mailing listStd-Proposals_at_[hidden]://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/std-proposals
-------- Original message --------From: Andrey Semashev via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> Date: 11/23/25 11:52 AM (GMT+01:00) To: std-proposals_at_[hidden] Cc: Andrey Semashev <andrey.semashev_at_[hidden]> Subject: Re: [std-proposals] The most fair rant on C++ On 23 Nov 2025 00:30, Thiago Macieira via Std-Proposals wrote:> > ABI is currently not part of the Standard.This is not entirely true. I'm sure you know that proposals and designdecisions are evaluated with ABI stability in mind, and sometimesotherwise valid proposals are rejected (or not written in the firstplace) because they would break ABI.Just an example of this that I recently came upon:https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/cwg_defects.html#2094And this isn't just about the Standard, this affects implementations aswell, and to even stronger degree.-- Std-Proposals mailing listStd-Proposals_at_[hidden]://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/std-proposals
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