You’ve explained your interpretation three times, and I’ve clarified mine just as often. If you still insist on misrepresenting what I said — despite direct quotes and context — then perhaps it’s not me who’s wasting people’s time.
I suggest you reread the thread with a bit more precision and a bit less presumption.
The issue isn’t whether ifstream works — it’s whether the API should allow nonsensical flag combinations to compile without warning. That’s a design critique, not a misunderstanding.
If that distinction escapes you, then I’ll gladly leave you to your echo chamber — Jérôme, who still believes APIs should make sense.

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De: Jonathan Wakely <cxx_at_[hidden]>
Envoyé: Dimanche 07 septembre 2025 16:03
À: Jerome Saint-Martin <jerome.saint-martin_at_[hidden]>
Cc: C++ Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]>; Matthieu Terrier <mterrier_at_[hidden]>; Caroline Pierron <caroline.pierron_at_[hidden]>; Madelenat, Christophe <christophe.madelenat_at_[hidden]>
Objet: Re: [std-proposals] [Draft] Typed and Safer Stream API for C++

No I *prefer* to explain the facts but when I've done that three times and you keep claiming the ifstream "doesn't work" then I assume you're just wasting people's time.



On Sun, 7 Sept 2025, 13:07 Jerome Saint-Martin, <jerome.saint-martin_at_[hidden]<mailto:jerome.saint-martin_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
    I see you prefer personal attacks over technical discussion. I never claimed that ifstream doesn't work—only that some flags seemed redundant. If you're interested in discussing the actual topic, I'm open to it. Otherwise, I'm happy to leave you the exclusive rights to trolling