Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 08:26:09 +0900
I was being kind with “i dont know” , the truer version of it is i do not
have much intellectual respect for that endeavor and wish to remain far
away from it.
It could be free and come with a monthly cake, I do not care more for it.
Finally, if you plan to work with people more than with agents, I’d
encourage you to re-read your statement and understand why a piece like “it
s unlikely i ll care because i convinced myself it’s all good” is
problematic.
Respectfully ^_^)/
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 8:08 Frederick Virchanza Gotham via Std-Proposals <
std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:17 PM Aurelien Cassagnes wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I dont know what you aim to do with this and i merely have the 1 or 2
> paper , regardless, I dont want it being ingested in that “thing”.
> >
> > Thanks & Cheers
> >
> > Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> Paper Kernel C++ will be free to download, free to use, and entirely
> open-source.
>
> I used Paper Kernel C++ just now to determine -- in about 5 seconds --
> that you've authored 7 papers: One revision of p3678, and six
> revisions of p3385. That literally took me about 5 seconds -- all I
> had to do was click your name on the Authors tab. I can also tell you
> that your name has no alternative forms -- i.e. it's never been
> encountered as "A. Cassagnes".
>
> I need to be very clear about something here -- not for a legal reason
> but more for a personal moral reason. If any of you wrote papers and
> uploaded them to your own personal webspace (like I have a few times),
> then I'd just leave them alone. They belong to you and I'm not going
> to go plundering other people's personal webspace. I am only dealing
> with papers that have been emailed to Nevin Lieber in order to get a
> document number and to enter the queue to be voted on. So if you've
> submitted a paper to the ISCO C++ committee, then you've put it out
> there to be scrutinised and managed by tens of thousands of C++
> programmers worldwide. I won't omit your submitted my papers from my
> program. What I'm doing here is "fair use", especially now since I
> became a member of WG21 this month and so I want to have a program to
> peruse and search through papers. Of course if I want something done
> right, I'll do it myself. Granted it will be open-source though so
> others will be free to tweak it as they wish.
>
> Britannica: https://www.britannica.com/topic/fair-use
>
> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
>
> Encyclopedia.com:
>
> https://www.encyclopedia.com/finance/finance-and-accounting-magazines/copyrights
>
> I'm willing to chat back and forth here with people who have qualms
> about their papers being embedded in my program, but really it's very
> unlikely that I'll fulfill anyone's request to remove their papers. In
> fact I'd have more moral qualms about removing someone's papers than I
> would about leaving them in. You can't just erase the history books
> like that. If you submit a C++ proposal papers, it's out there.
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>
have much intellectual respect for that endeavor and wish to remain far
away from it.
It could be free and come with a monthly cake, I do not care more for it.
Finally, if you plan to work with people more than with agents, I’d
encourage you to re-read your statement and understand why a piece like “it
s unlikely i ll care because i convinced myself it’s all good” is
problematic.
Respectfully ^_^)/
Sent from Gmail Mobile
On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 8:08 Frederick Virchanza Gotham via Std-Proposals <
std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:17 PM Aurelien Cassagnes wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I dont know what you aim to do with this and i merely have the 1 or 2
> paper , regardless, I dont want it being ingested in that “thing”.
> >
> > Thanks & Cheers
> >
> > Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> Paper Kernel C++ will be free to download, free to use, and entirely
> open-source.
>
> I used Paper Kernel C++ just now to determine -- in about 5 seconds --
> that you've authored 7 papers: One revision of p3678, and six
> revisions of p3385. That literally took me about 5 seconds -- all I
> had to do was click your name on the Authors tab. I can also tell you
> that your name has no alternative forms -- i.e. it's never been
> encountered as "A. Cassagnes".
>
> I need to be very clear about something here -- not for a legal reason
> but more for a personal moral reason. If any of you wrote papers and
> uploaded them to your own personal webspace (like I have a few times),
> then I'd just leave them alone. They belong to you and I'm not going
> to go plundering other people's personal webspace. I am only dealing
> with papers that have been emailed to Nevin Lieber in order to get a
> document number and to enter the queue to be voted on. So if you've
> submitted a paper to the ISCO C++ committee, then you've put it out
> there to be scrutinised and managed by tens of thousands of C++
> programmers worldwide. I won't omit your submitted my papers from my
> program. What I'm doing here is "fair use", especially now since I
> became a member of WG21 this month and so I want to have a program to
> peruse and search through papers. Of course if I want something done
> right, I'll do it myself. Granted it will be open-source though so
> others will be free to tweak it as they wish.
>
> Britannica: https://www.britannica.com/topic/fair-use
>
> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
>
> Encyclopedia.com:
>
> https://www.encyclopedia.com/finance/finance-and-accounting-magazines/copyrights
>
> I'm willing to chat back and forth here with people who have qualms
> about their papers being embedded in my program, but really it's very
> unlikely that I'll fulfill anyone's request to remove their papers. In
> fact I'd have more moral qualms about removing someone's papers than I
> would about leaving them in. You can't just erase the history books
> like that. If you submit a C++ proposal papers, it's out there.
> --
> Std-Proposals mailing list
> Std-Proposals_at_[hidden]
> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/std-proposals
>
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