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Re: [std-proposals] Dedicated website with AI that has processed all papers

From: Oliver Hunt <oliver_at_[hidden]>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 09:11:46 -0700
As I stated previously you explicitly do not have permission to republish any paper for which I am an author or co-author.

It is unclear if you can choose to arbitrarily republish the work of others, without their or ISO’s permission, and IIRC multiple people raised this issue.

I thought at the time you said this was intended as a purely local tool which is why I stopped arguing with you, but you cross a very clear line the moment you choose to republish the work of others with out permission, or in my case at least an explicit lack or permission.

I am unclear why you believe you have the right to do so, especially given you asked earlier and were told no by myself and others.

—Oliver


> On Jul 17, 2025, at 8:34 AM, Frederick Virchanza Gotham via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> I want to make sure I have everyone's names right before I release
> Version 1 of the Paper Kernel C++ in a week or two's time.
>
> I spent many hours working on all your names, in particular
> consolidating multiple forms into one, e.g. "B. Stroustrup" and
> "Bjarne Stroustrup" are the same person. In my own case, "TPK Healy"
> and "Thomas P. K. Healy" are the same person. For German names, I have
> preferred the umlaut instead of putting an 'e' after the vowel, except
> for where I've seen very consistent contrary use such as Andrew
> Koenig. Shout out to the Spanish folks who gave me a bit of work to
> do. The Dutch too. Even with the help of AI, I still spent many hours
> mapping alternative forms of names to primary forms of names.
>
> Here are all the names in a header file in the main program:
>
> https://github.com/healytpk/paperkernelcxx/blob/main/main_program/AUTO_GENERATED_names.hpp
>
> There are two arrays, the first is the primary names, so for example
> "Bjarne Stroustrup" is a primary name. The second array is the
> alternative names, and this is where "B. Stroustrup" gets mapped to a
> primary. "TPK Healy" gets mapped to "Thomas P. K. Healy". "Kyle
> Kloepper" gets mapped to "Kyle Klopper (with an umlaut over the 'o')".
>
> Please take a quick look in the header file to make sure I have your
> name correct before I release Version 1 in a week or two. If you see a
> misspelling of your name in the array of alternatives, it's because
> your name is misspelled on the 'open-std.org' website. Every single
> name you see in that header file was copied verbatim from the
> "open-std.org" website by a crawler program -- so no human error here
> on my part. I had to manually correct a few of these misspellings
> (even after asking AI to pick out the more obvious one's).
>
> If you've submitted a paper and you don't see your name, please tell
> me. Or if your name is merged with a different person, for example if
> your name is "Thomas Smith", but sometimes "T. Smith" gets mapped to
> "Timothy Smith", please tell me. I had to do a little investigating in
> places, for example 'D. Walker' could be Daniel Walker or Daryle
> Walker. Sometimes all you have to work with is a surname, e.g.
> "Garland" could be either Jeff Garland or Michael Garland.
>
> If you want your name in Kanji or Arabic in parentheses beside your
> Roman-script name, please ask me. All builds of Paper Kernel C++ will
> support full Unicode for all architectures and operating systems.
>
> If you want your name changed, e.g. you got married, you became a
> Sikh, you did the Hajj, you transitioned, you graduated from witness
> protection, personal reasons, no reason, then please ask me. I don't
> seek an explanation for names, just tell me the primary and I'll
> change it in the header file. Or if you want diacritics added, e.g. an
> acute accent over the 'e', then please ask me.
>
> Please let me know if someone in the list has died, for example I've
> tagged "(1982 -2024)" onto Ed's name.
>
> If you scroll through the main program's code at the moment you'll see
> lots of bad stuff . . . I needed to get stuff working quickly so some
> functions still have rubbish like "return *new std::string(. . .);"
> which of course is a memory leak. I'll be tying up all those loose
> ends in the coming week or two. It has all come together very nicely
> though. About 9000 papers are in RAM all at once, so it takes up a gig
> of RAM, but it's lightning fast for loading and searching. For those
> who want to conserve RAM, I might give the option of keeping them on
> disk.
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