Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:19:39 +0200
niedz., 30 cze 2024 o 17:22 Bo Persson via Std-Proposals
<std-proposals_at_[hidden]> napisaĆ(a):
>
> On 2024-06-30 at 15:39, Ville Voutilainen via Std-Proposals wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 16:30, Bo Persson via Std-Proposals
> > <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2024-06-30 at 14:28, Marcin Jaczewski via Std-Proposals wrote:
> >>> On GCC mailing list I notice email:
> >>> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2024-June/244252.html
> >>> Aside of misguided author (profanities & sending it to gcc instead of here)
> >>> some of his concerns could be valid.
> >>>
> >>> Example: there is a freestanding version of the standard library module?
> >>> Or how to reduce blot that `import std;` can cause even if I only
> >>> use part of it like `std::vector` or `std::unique_ptr` but
> >>> I do not plan touching `std::regexp` or io.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe something like `import std.core;` (like MSVC did) or
> >>> use import headers like `import <iostream>;`?
> >>>
> >>> Or is this simply a QoI issue and the committee does not need to consider
> >>> how big is binary after `import std;`?
> >>
> >> Is this a real problem, or just an upset user?
> >>
> >> I don't have your embedded compiler, so tried this on Visual Studio:
> >>
> >> import std;
> >>
> >> int main()
> >> {}
> >>
> >> and get an 11 kB exe-file.
> >>
> >> Is that too much bloat?
> >
> > If you remove that import, how large is your exe-file?
>
> Exactly the same. :-)
>
>
How exactly did you tested it? You have a local VS?
I tried checking it on godbolt but as I see, it's not fully supported yet.
Now I wonder if this thanks to some special handling for `std` or will it
work similar in user defined modules? Like I could
create a 20MiB helper module with tons of functions but if I use only
one of them then the final binary will only grow by a couple of kB.
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<std-proposals_at_[hidden]> napisaĆ(a):
>
> On 2024-06-30 at 15:39, Ville Voutilainen via Std-Proposals wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 at 16:30, Bo Persson via Std-Proposals
> > <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2024-06-30 at 14:28, Marcin Jaczewski via Std-Proposals wrote:
> >>> On GCC mailing list I notice email:
> >>> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2024-June/244252.html
> >>> Aside of misguided author (profanities & sending it to gcc instead of here)
> >>> some of his concerns could be valid.
> >>>
> >>> Example: there is a freestanding version of the standard library module?
> >>> Or how to reduce blot that `import std;` can cause even if I only
> >>> use part of it like `std::vector` or `std::unique_ptr` but
> >>> I do not plan touching `std::regexp` or io.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe something like `import std.core;` (like MSVC did) or
> >>> use import headers like `import <iostream>;`?
> >>>
> >>> Or is this simply a QoI issue and the committee does not need to consider
> >>> how big is binary after `import std;`?
> >>
> >> Is this a real problem, or just an upset user?
> >>
> >> I don't have your embedded compiler, so tried this on Visual Studio:
> >>
> >> import std;
> >>
> >> int main()
> >> {}
> >>
> >> and get an 11 kB exe-file.
> >>
> >> Is that too much bloat?
> >
> > If you remove that import, how large is your exe-file?
>
> Exactly the same. :-)
>
>
How exactly did you tested it? You have a local VS?
I tried checking it on godbolt but as I see, it's not fully supported yet.
Now I wonder if this thanks to some special handling for `std` or will it
work similar in user defined modules? Like I could
create a 20MiB helper module with tons of functions but if I use only
one of them then the final binary will only grow by a couple of kB.
>
>
>
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