I do not know about it lol.

It is capitalism you bro. No money, no services. People with more money
will always own a larger saying on C++. People without money won't even
have a say of anything to WG21. We have 5 million C++ programmers worldwide
then tell me how many of them have any say so? Even from population
perspective, big corporations clearly own more votes.

It does not hurt small companies. Small companies won't have programs that
written in 1980s or 1990s to survive these days. When economic recessions
come out, they would suffer the most and large companies buy them. That is
capitalist competition.

Quite opposite the biggest oppositions i heard come from big companies like
Adobe. How is a NASDAQ 500 company a small company?

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 11:54 AM Ville Voutilainen <
ville.voutilainen_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Sept 2023 at 18:30, coshvji cujmlqef via Std-Proposals
> <std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> > 2. Same thing here: I do not see how WG21 is going to change when it is
> filled with big corporations.
>
> It isn't, there are balancing parts in its membership, especially in
> the non-U.S. members of it. Perhaps you should try at least once in
> your life to avoid spouting
> nonsense about things you seem to know nothing about.
>
> > What about breaking ABIs? Oh, large companies have 40 years old binary
> that loses source code that "cannot break".
>
> For heaven's sake.. ..there are members of WG21 who oppose ABI breaks
> because those hurt *small* companies, not big ones
> - and they hurt end users, end users who are not programmers and can't
> simply "recompile source code", because they don't
> know what any of those three words mean. See above for a
> recommendation to keep your mouth shut about things you understand
> nothing about.
>
> > Why should I care about their projects?
>
> Why should anyone care about what you care about, or don't?
>
> > What about giving up EBCDIC? Or at least making the situation better? Oh
> no. WG21 does nothing.
>
> This is getting hilarious. SG16 has made steady improvements (and
> those improvements have indeed been adopted by WG21)
> to character set handling and specification in C++, but to you that's
> "nothing".
>
> > Oh, we also have new format string advocators in WG21, hmhm. Of course
> they are going to push propaganda to advocate format string which are
> historically vulnerablities. "These big companies love format string lol
> because they want their programmers to write cheap and buggy code." Then
> went there talking shit like: C++ is dangerous and only terroists use it
> because it helps CCP violates human rights.
>
> Ah, yes, sounds very hinged.
>