On 2021-07-27 at 12:46, Vladimir Grigoriev via Std-Discussion wrote:
> I have not understood how this reference is related to my question.

Perhaps the confusion is that the item isn't used in the section where
it is defined. However it *is* used in Statements and Expressions.

For example:

     return expr-or-braced-init-list(opt) ;


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> Вторник, 27 июля 2021, 12:32 +03:00 от Antoine Viallon
> <antoine_at_[hidden]>:
> See this:
> http://eel.is/c++draft/dcl.init.general#nt:expr-or-braced-init-list
> <http://eel.is/c++draft/dcl.init.general#nt:expr-or-braced-init-list>
>
> Antoine Viallon
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> *De :* Vladimir Grigoriev via Std-Discussion
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> *Envoyé :* 26 juillet 2021 22:00:50 GMT+02:00
> *À :* Brian Bi <bbi5291_at_[hidden] </compose?To=bbi5291_at_[hidden]>>
> *Cc :* Vladimir Grigoriev <vlad.moscow_at_[hidden]
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> *Objet :* Re: [std-discussion] What is the meaning of
> expr-or-braced-init-list in the grammar of the term initializer?
> And what?!
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> Понедельник, 26 июля 2021, 22:49 +03:00 от Brian Bi
> <bbi5291_at_[hidden] </compose?To=bbi5291_at_[hidden]>>:
> See http://eel.is/c++draft/grammarindex
> <http://eel.is/c++draft/grammarindex> for a list of references
> to /expr-or-braced-init-list/
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 3:43 PM Vladimir Grigoriev via
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> wrote:
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> In the section «Initializers» of the C++ Standard in the
> grammar that describes the term initializer there are the
> following lines
> expr-or-braced-init-list:
> expression
> braced-init-list
> But nowhere in the grammar there is a reference to this term.
> It is unclear why is it present here and how is it related
> to the term initializer?
> With best regards
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