I tend to go in class over a simplified story that resembles their exercise.
Then they should see how to use the solution provided for the simplified
story in their own exercise.

For example:
- simple story: managing examinees in exam hall
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zi1uuLTKlsspBo2aEgGGStqrMH84PhmzEG3i6f7M_Dw>
- their exercise: managing containers on ship
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Rh6TPxvG3fEr4fFbYiDU3ynVzKgKTlV1UlTW8j7_kQ4>

If you have time to read the above (long) requirement docs and have
feedback, please feel free to share with me privately.


On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:57 PM Tony V E via SG20 <sg20_at_[hidden]>
wrote:

> I've often wondered about giving students code from previous students.
> Or better yet, give them the code from themselves in first year.
>
> I would also like to give a class different parts of a problem - this
> group do the UI, this group do the backend, etc. Makes marking harder
> probably, but is more realistic.
> Of course there is also internship for learning those things.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:04 PM Patrice Roy via SG20 <sg20_at_[hidden]>
> wrote:
>
>> The big problem in schools is that (in my experience, at least) we don't
>> actually have a body of legacy code to provide, and making students use
>> colleagues' sources (something I tried) tends not to give desired results
>> due to... let's call it "emergent quality of implementation" (it's far from
>> professional code that's evolved over time).
>>
>> I guess we could make a list of relevant open source projects (with
>> reasons why we think they are relevant) or ask partners from the industry
>> to provide some interesting sources for students to play with... We'd need
>> something stable, however, to avoid students accessing the work of previous
>> years' students.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *De :* SG20 <sg20-bounces_at_[hidden]> de la part de JC van Winkel
>> via SG20 <sg20_at_[hidden]>
>> *Envoyé :* mardi 9 juin 2020 11:47
>> *À :* SG20 <sg20_at_[hidden]>
>> *Cc :* JC van Winkel <jcvw_at_[hidden]>
>> *Objet :* Re: [SG20] Wonderful story from Brian Kernighan about an
>> assignment he gave to students.
>>
>> Glad you liked it.
>>
>> In general, I like the idea of giving assignments where students need to *
>> change* software. That is what happens the most in industry.
>>
>> JC
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 3:06 PM Yongwei Wu via SG20 <sg20_at_[hidden]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It is totally fantastic. I watched the ending twice, and then the video
>> in whole. Both Brian and Ken are brilliant!
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 15:58, JC van Winkel via SG20 <
>> sg20_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTfOnGZUZDk&feature=youtu.be&t=533
>> <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNTfOnGZUZDk%26feature%3Dyoutu.be%26t%3D533&data=02%7C01%7Cpatrice.roy%40usherbrooke.ca%7C8c14ba10de4b4d37a4d908d80c8c7b60%7C3a5a8744593545f99423b32c3a5de082%7C0%7C0%7C637273144789439049&sdata=2IgC08vuETc8vIhC3%2Fl1dbs3jMNjYabM5NUgXs9ScJE%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> (it is the last 30 seconds of a video of the origins of the grep command
>> in UNIX)
>>
>> JC
>> --
>> SG20 mailing list
>> SG20_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg20
>> <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.isocpp.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fsg20&data=02%7C01%7Cpatrice.roy%40usherbrooke.ca%7C8c14ba10de4b4d37a4d908d80c8c7b60%7C3a5a8744593545f99423b32c3a5de082%7C0%7C0%7C637273144789449041&sdata=XFt3dm3aqMSop9QaM6cCOg5rkFLVAgjEFqXc11piBu8%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yongwei Wu
>> URL: http://wyw.dcweb.cn/
>> <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwyw.dcweb.cn%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cpatrice.roy%40usherbrooke.ca%7C8c14ba10de4b4d37a4d908d80c8c7b60%7C3a5a8744593545f99423b32c3a5de082%7C0%7C0%7C637273144789449041&sdata=0wSBvJlfj1CrCxjzvCs8pAallZLQG51hL2yDvHrVq%2F8%3D&reserved=0>
>> --
>> SG20 mailing list
>> SG20_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg20
>> <https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.isocpp.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fsg20&data=02%7C01%7Cpatrice.roy%40usherbrooke.ca%7C8c14ba10de4b4d37a4d908d80c8c7b60%7C3a5a8744593545f99423b32c3a5de082%7C0%7C0%7C637273144789459034&sdata=MfpVmgNIkuuWg7j5bMO9ycuYqEMlhtoZAIC6IUXRooA%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> --
>> SG20 mailing list
>> SG20_at_[hidden]
>> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg20
>>
>
>
> --
> Be seeing you,
> Tony
> --
> SG20 mailing list
> SG20_at_[hidden]
> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg20
>