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On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:50 AM, Michael Wong via SG19 <sg19_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg19_at_[hidden]>> wrote:

Hi all, this is the SG19 Machine Learning meeting will focus on graphs. Are there any other suggested topics?
Thank you.


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1. Opening and introductions

The ISO Code of conduct:
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The WG21 Practices and Procedures and Code of Conduct:
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1.1 Roll call of participants

1.2 Adopt agenda

1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
 previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org<http://isocpp.org/>

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

Meeting plan, focus on one paper per meeting but does not preclude other
paper updates:

Varna F2F
C++23 and C++26 status


Apr 13: Graph
May 11: Cancelled
June 15: Varna F2F (cancelled)
July 13: Stats
Aug 10: Cancelled
Sep 14: Graph
Oct 12: Stats
Nov 9: Kona F2F Cancelled
Dec 14: Matrix


ISO meeting status

future C++ Std meetings

2.2 Paper reviews

2.2.1: ML topics

2.2.1.1 Graph Proposal Phil Ratsloff et al

Latest paper:

Here’s a link to the paper (different than the previous paper reviewed).
There are some additional updates I’m planning on making before the meeting.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OpH-xxRri7tJTtJJIZTYmSHkkrZJkdBwm9zJ7LqolfQ/edit?usp=sharing<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OpH-xxRri7tJTtJJIZTYmSHkkrZJkdBwm9zJ7LqolfQ/edit?usp=sharing__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1aUHbHJE$>




P1709R3:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLHhbSTX7j0tPeTYECQFSNx3R35Mu3xO5_dyYdRy4dM/edit?usp=sharing<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLHhbSTX7j0tPeTYECQFSNx3R35Mu3xO5_dyYdRy4dM/edit?usp=sharing__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM118Ynw3U$>

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkfDzGyfNQKs86y053M0YHOLP6frzhTJqzg1Ug_vkkE/edit?usp=sharing<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkfDzGyfNQKs86y053M0YHOLP6frzhTJqzg1Ug_vkkE/edit?usp=sharing__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1pZZSK1c$>

<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1i_cK1zQ$>>

<
https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd#heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd*heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1vB6jfgs$>
*>*

Array copy semantics:
array copy-semantics paper P1997 "Relaxing Restrictions on Arrays",
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Stats feedback:

P2376R0
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2376r0.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2376r0.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1qMWvTWw$>>
Comments
on Simple Statistical Functions (p1708r4): Contracts, Exceptions and
Special cases Johan Lundberg

2.2.1.2 Reinforcement Learning Larry Lewis Jorge Silva

Reinforcement Learning proposal:

2.2.1.3 Differential Calculus:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd#heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd*heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1vB6jfgs$>

2.2.1.4<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://2.2.1.4__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1mkTCvMY$>: Stats paper

P2681R0
<https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p2681r0.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p2681r0.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1WBDwYZI$>> More
Stats Functions Richard Dosselmann, Michael Wong
Current github

https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/475<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/475__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1C6afjkM$>

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Stats review Richard Dosselman et al

http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p1708r4.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p1708r4.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1KDlt7Lk$>

Feedback from Johan Lundberg and Oleksandr Korval

https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D2376R0.pdf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D2376R0.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM13wGChHM$>

P1708R3: Math proposal for Machine Learning: 3rd review

PXXXX: combinatorics: 1st Review

*> std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1h_tuXlQ$>
<http://std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1h_tuXlQ$>>*
*> above is the stats paper that was reviewed in Prague*
*> http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1W4F9r40$>
<http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1W4F9r40$>>*
*>*
*> Review Jolanta Polish feedback.*
*> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1i_cK1zQ$>
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1i_cK1zQ$>>*


2.2.1.4<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://2.2.1.4__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1mkTCvMY$>: Matrix paper

2.2.3 any other proposal for reviews?

2.3 Other Papers and proposals

P1416R1: SG19 - Linear Algebra for Data Science and Machine Learning
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IKUNiUhBgRURW-UkspK7fAAyIhfXuMxjk7xKikK4Yp8/edit#heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IKUNiUhBgRURW-UkspK7fAAyIhfXuMxjk7xKikK4Yp8/edit*heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1Ue76Bxo$>

P1415: Machine Learning Layered list
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elNFdIXWoetbxjO1OKol_Wj8fyi4Z4hogfj5tLVSj64/edit#heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elNFdIXWoetbxjO1OKol_Wj8fyi4Z4hogfj5tLVSj64/edit*heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1kJWjE-c$>

2.2.2 SG14 Linear Algebra progress:
Different layers of proposal
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poXfr7mUPovJC9ZQ5SDVM_1Nb6oYAXlK_d0ljdUAtSQ/edit<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poXfr7mUPovJC9ZQ5SDVM_1Nb6oYAXlK_d0ljdUAtSQ/edit__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1x9xYGWc$>

2.5 Future F2F meetings:

2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
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None

3. Any other business

New reflector

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Code and proposal Staging area

4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)

5. Closing process

5.1 Establish next agenda


5.2 Future meeting
Apr 13: Graph
May 11: Cancelled
June 15: Varna F2F (cancelled)
July 13: Stats
Aug 10: Cancelled
Sep 14: Graph
Oct 12: Stats
Nov 9: Kona F2F Cancelled
Dec 14: Matrix
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