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Subject: Re: SG19 June 9 ZOoom
From: will wray (wjwray_at_[hidden])
Date: 2021-06-10 11:17:26


Here's a link to the P2128 rebuttal draft:
*n2740* Arguments against a[i...] syntax for multidimensional indexing
<https://github.com/willwray/n2740/blob/main/P2128_rebuttal.md>
A bit long - here's a direct link to the Case Summary
<https://github.com/willwray/n2740/blob/main/P2128_rebuttal.md#case-summary>

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:04 AM Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> Thank you for the correction WIll. We should have time for your paper.
> Thank you.
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:52 AM will wray <wjwray_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> Should be tomorrow June 10, right? (Title says "June 9")
>>
>> The agenda looks quiet.
>> If there is interest I'd like to give a short presentation, ~10 mins,
>> with arguments
>> against C++ proposal P2128 "Multidimensional subscript operator".
>> I'm writing a rebuttal paper for SG22 and could do with feedback before
>> submitting it.
>> The topic is relevant to SG19 too, as it targets the mdspan API.
>> I'll post a link here.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:27 AM Michael Wong via SG19 <
>> sg19_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> SG19 Machine Learning 2 hours. This session will focus on Reinforcement
>>> Learning and a review of Stats feedback from
>>> P2376R0
>>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2376r0.pdf> Comments
>>> on Simple Statistical Functions (p1708r4): Contracts, Exceptions and
>>> Special cases Johan Lundberg
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>>
>>> Topic: SG19 monthly
>>> Time: 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) 1800 UTC Stats
>>> Every month on the Second Thu,
>>> June 10, 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Reinforcement Learning, stats
>>> feedback
>>> Jul 8, 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Graph?
>>>
>>> Aug 12 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Differential calculus
>>>
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>>> Agenda:
>>>
>>> 1. Opening and introductions
>>>
>>> The ISO Code of conduct:
>>> https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/store/en/PUB100397.pdf
>>> The IEC Code of Conduct:
>>>
>>> https://basecamp.iec.ch/download/iec-code-of-conduct-for-delegates-and-experts/
>>>
>>> ISO patent policy.
>>>
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>>>
>>> The WG21 Practices and Procedures and Code of Conduct:
>>>
>>> https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures
>>>
>>> 1.1 Roll call of participants
>>>
>>> 1.2 Adopt agenda
>>>
>>> 1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
>>> previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
>>>
>>> 1.4 Action items from previous meetings
>>>
>>> 2. Main issues (125 min)
>>>
>>> 2.1 General logistics
>>>
>>> Meeting plan, focus on one paper per meeting but does not preclude other
>>> paper updates:
>>>
>>> June 10, 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Reinforcement Learning, stats
>>> feedback
>>>
>>> Jul 8, 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Graph?
>>>
>>> Aug 12 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Differential calculus
>>>
>>> ISO meeting status
>>>
>>> future C++ Std meetings
>>>
>>> 2.2 Paper reviews
>>>
>>> 2.2.1: ML topics
>>>
>>> 2.2.1.1 Graph Proposal Phil Ratsloff et al
>>>
>>> P1709R1: Graph Proposal for Machine Learning
>>>
>>> P1709R3:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLHhbSTX7j0tPeTYECQFSNx3R35Mu3xO5_dyYdRy4dM/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkfDzGyfNQKs86y053M0YHOLP6frzhTJqzg1Ug_vkkE/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html>
>>>
>>> <
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd#heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel
>>> >
>>>
>>> Stats feedback:
>>>
>>> P2376R0
>>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2376r0.pdf> Comments
>>> on Simple Statistical Functions (p1708r4): Contracts, Exceptions and
>>> Special cases Johan Lundberg
>>>
>>> 2.2.1.2 Reinforcement Learning Larry Lewis Jorge Silva
>>>
>>> Reinforcement Learning proposal:
>>>
>>> 2.2.1.3 Differential Calculus:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd#heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel
>>>
>>> 2.2.1.4: Stats paper
>>>
>>> Current github
>>>
>>> https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/475
>>>
>>> https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/979
>>>
>>> Stats review Richard Dosselman et al
>>>
>>> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p1708r4.pdf
>>>
>>> Feedback from Johan Lundberg and Oleksandr Korval
>>>
>>> https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D2376R0.pdf
>>>
>>> P1708R3: Math proposal for Machine Learning: 3rd review
>>>
>>> PXXXX: combinatorics: 1st Review
>>>
>>> > std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2
>>> > above is the stats paper that was reviewed in Prague
>>> > http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19
>>> >
>>> > Review Jolanta Polish feedback.
>>> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html
>>>
>>> 2.2.3 any other proposal for reviews?
>>>
>>> 2.3 Other Papers and proposals
>>>
>>> P1416R1: SG19 - Linear Algebra for Data Science and Machine Learning
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IKUNiUhBgRURW-UkspK7fAAyIhfXuMxjk7xKikK4Yp8/edit#heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr
>>>
>>> P1415: Machine Learning Layered list
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elNFdIXWoetbxjO1OKol_Wj8fyi4Z4hogfj5tLVSj64/edit#heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr
>>>
>>> 2.2.2 SG14 Linear Algebra progress:
>>> Different layers of proposal
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poXfr7mUPovJC9ZQ5SDVM_1Nb6oYAXlK_d0ljdUAtSQ/edit
>>>
>>> 2.5 Future F2F meetings:
>>>
>>> 2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
>>> https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>> 3. Any other business
>>>
>>> New reflector
>>>
>>> http://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg19
>>>
>>> Old Reflector
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!newtopic/sg19
>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/sg14>
>>>
>>> Code and proposal Staging area
>>>
>>> 4. Review
>>>
>>> 4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
>>> working draft]
>>>
>>> 4.2 Review action items (5 min)
>>>
>>> 5. Closing process
>>>
>>> 5.1 Establish next agenda
>>>
>>> TBD
>>>
>>> 5.2 Future meeting
>>>
>>>
>>> Jul 8, 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Graph?
>>>
>>> Aug 12 2021 02:00 PM ET 1800 UTC Differential calculus
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