Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 17:37:15 +0200
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 17:32 Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On 4/29/21 6:39 AM, Peter Brett via SG16 wrote:
>
> Hi Corentin,
>
>
>
> I think this is a big improvement!
>
>
>
> Does anyone know what “physical” means in [lex.phases]:1? I feel like we
> could remove both occurrences of “physical” from this paragraph without any
> normative effect.
>
> I don't have a reference to cite, but I interpret this as follows. If we
> think of the standard as an abstract specification, the use of "physical"
> is what connects it to something that exists in the real world. This
> allows the specification to be applied to, for example, code written on a
> napkin or a blackboard. I won't lose any sleep over dropping "physical"
> here, but I can imagine a situation in which the ISO has some rule that
> specifications may not be completely abstract; that they have to describe
> something "real". I have no idea if any such rule exists.
>
I suggested previously using input (character, file).
You'll seemed to prefer it being a separate paper. Which i tend to agree
with.
> Tom.
>
>
>
> There is an obvious incomplete merge with P2314, in that the current P2295
> wording suggests that UCN doesn’t occur for UTF-8 source files. Just to
> clarify this, please could we insert a paragraph break before “Any source
> file character…”?
>
>
>
> I don’t have any concerns about forwarding this paper to EWG in its
> current form.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* SG16 <sg16-bounces_at_[hidden]>
> <sg16-bounces_at_[hidden]> *On Behalf Of *Corentin via SG16
> *Sent:* 29 April 2021 08:35
> *To:* SG16 <sg16_at_[hidden]> <sg16_at_[hidden]>
> *Cc:* Corentin <corentin.jabot_at_[hidden]> <corentin.jabot_at_[hidden]>
> *Subject:* [SG16] P2295R3 Support for UTF-8 as a portable source file
> encoding
>
>
>
> EXTERNAL MAIL
>
> Per request in yesterday's meeting,
>
> here is P2295R3 Support for UTF-8 as a portable source file encoding.
>
>
>
> I am looking forward to your feedback
>
>
>
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2295r3.pdf
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2295r3.pdf__;!!EHscmS1ygiU1lA!XaO4EGAyt6UeI1vxk8b0nQ_eprHj_DnOwoz0W7Ql_YPrpGZJkaTnisiu138yiQ$>
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>
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> On 4/29/21 6:39 AM, Peter Brett via SG16 wrote:
>
> Hi Corentin,
>
>
>
> I think this is a big improvement!
>
>
>
> Does anyone know what “physical” means in [lex.phases]:1? I feel like we
> could remove both occurrences of “physical” from this paragraph without any
> normative effect.
>
> I don't have a reference to cite, but I interpret this as follows. If we
> think of the standard as an abstract specification, the use of "physical"
> is what connects it to something that exists in the real world. This
> allows the specification to be applied to, for example, code written on a
> napkin or a blackboard. I won't lose any sleep over dropping "physical"
> here, but I can imagine a situation in which the ISO has some rule that
> specifications may not be completely abstract; that they have to describe
> something "real". I have no idea if any such rule exists.
>
I suggested previously using input (character, file).
You'll seemed to prefer it being a separate paper. Which i tend to agree
with.
> Tom.
>
>
>
> There is an obvious incomplete merge with P2314, in that the current P2295
> wording suggests that UCN doesn’t occur for UTF-8 source files. Just to
> clarify this, please could we insert a paragraph break before “Any source
> file character…”?
>
>
>
> I don’t have any concerns about forwarding this paper to EWG in its
> current form.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* SG16 <sg16-bounces_at_[hidden]>
> <sg16-bounces_at_[hidden]> *On Behalf Of *Corentin via SG16
> *Sent:* 29 April 2021 08:35
> *To:* SG16 <sg16_at_[hidden]> <sg16_at_[hidden]>
> *Cc:* Corentin <corentin.jabot_at_[hidden]> <corentin.jabot_at_[hidden]>
> *Subject:* [SG16] P2295R3 Support for UTF-8 as a portable source file
> encoding
>
>
>
> EXTERNAL MAIL
>
> Per request in yesterday's meeting,
>
> here is P2295R3 Support for UTF-8 as a portable source file encoding.
>
>
>
> I am looking forward to your feedback
>
>
>
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2295r3.pdf
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2295r3.pdf__;!!EHscmS1ygiU1lA!XaO4EGAyt6UeI1vxk8b0nQ_eprHj_DnOwoz0W7Ql_YPrpGZJkaTnisiu138yiQ$>
>
>
>
Received on 2021-04-29 10:37:31