Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 09:28:03 -0700
On Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:31:00 PDT Lyberta wrote:
> Thiago Macieira:
> > Challenge: produce this JSON thread-safely in machine-readable format in
> > C,
> > with setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); at the top of the file, from input double v =
> > 1.1.>
> > [ 1.1 ]
>
> In C, huh? I'd rather write in C++ and in that case it's not that hard
> because of std::mutex, char8_t, std::byte, templates.
Ok, so how would you do this in C++?
>
> I'm not sure why setlocale was mentioned, why would you ever format JSON
> numbers (or anything JSON) with locale?
Because it isn't about JSON, it's about everything else. Here's a failure mode
your code should be able to deal with: printing the localised error message of
why it couldn't open the output file for writing.
I asked for C because my argument was that the C library is deficient in
handling machine-readable floating point text forms. C++ has the necessary
forms, but it's also very easy to fall into a trap and write wrong code.
> > Great! Let's drop JSON then.
>
> JSON requires UTF-8 and specific parsing rules, it far away from plain text.
It's not binary, though. This whole argument is that the moment you need to
write or parse text forms of numbers and strings, you introduce new failure
modes because programmers aren't aware of the pitfalls.
> Thiago Macieira:
> > Challenge: produce this JSON thread-safely in machine-readable format in
> > C,
> > with setlocale(LC_ALL, ""); at the top of the file, from input double v =
> > 1.1.>
> > [ 1.1 ]
>
> In C, huh? I'd rather write in C++ and in that case it's not that hard
> because of std::mutex, char8_t, std::byte, templates.
Ok, so how would you do this in C++?
>
> I'm not sure why setlocale was mentioned, why would you ever format JSON
> numbers (or anything JSON) with locale?
Because it isn't about JSON, it's about everything else. Here's a failure mode
your code should be able to deal with: printing the localised error message of
why it couldn't open the output file for writing.
I asked for C because my argument was that the C library is deficient in
handling machine-readable floating point text forms. C++ has the necessary
forms, but it's also very easy to fall into a trap and write wrong code.
> > Great! Let's drop JSON then.
>
> JSON requires UTF-8 and specific parsing rules, it far away from plain text.
It's not binary, though. This whole argument is that the moment you need to
write or parse text forms of numbers and strings, you introduce new failure
modes because programmers aren't aware of the pitfalls.
-- Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org Software Architect - Intel System Software Products
Received on 2019-09-08 18:28:08