Other then Patrice's ongoing Games paper, are there ny other discussions?
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Opening and introductionISO Code of Conduct<https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1*>*ISO patent policy.https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2IEC Code of Conduct:https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-workWG21 Code of Conduct:https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures1.1 Roll call of participants1.2 Adopt agenda1.3 Approve minutes from the previous meeting, and approve publishing previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org1.4 Action items from previous meetings2. Main issues (125 min)2.1 General logistics2024 planningC++23 and C++26 statusFuture and past meeting plans* Jan 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games DONE* Feb 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded DONE* Mar 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled due to Tokyo 3-18-23* Apr 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance DONE* May 8, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games* June 12, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded; St.louis 6-24-29* July 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance* Aug 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games* Sep 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: CPPCON Sept 15-20 so cancelled* Oct 9, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded* Nov 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled Wroclaw F2F* Dec 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance2.2 Paper reviewsEmbedded:* P3132 Accept attributes with user-defined prefixes* P3134 Attribute [[asserts_rvo]]Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwickhttps://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdfFreestanding UpdatesGames paper reviewArthur's suggestions:(1) I put in the Slack channel<https://cpplang.slack.com/archives/C3TK2M6HH/p1703947057425609> a whileago Clang PR #76596 <https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/76596>, fromone Max Winkler, apparently in game dev. I don't think the PR stands muchchance of getting merged into Clang; but it might still be of interest toSG14 folks. The issue description is very long and somewhat detailed, andthen there's more discussion/debate in the comments<https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/76596#issuecomment-1872601156>.(I'd actually be interested in talking to Max, but he doesn't publish hisemail address on GitHub and I guess that might be on purpose.)(2) LEWG will be seeing my P3055 "Relax wording to permit relocationoptimizations in the STL"<https://quuxplusone.github.io/draft/d3055-relocation.html> in a telecon onFebruary 20th. (Related blog post.<https://quuxplusone.github.io/blog/2024/01/02/bsl-vector-erase/>) Mightbe interesting to folks who do EASTL-style containers. I'd be interested inearly feedback and/or telecon attendance.Discussion on Embedded:Paul's suggestionsThe next meeting would then be Embedded and I would be interested inknowing if people think a module std.freestanding is worth pursuing.In that context I'd like to get some feedback perhaps already for theupcoming meeting, if people have started using modules, and if so if it hasbrought the promised expectations or if you are holding back if you see anyrelevance in modules.Review latest mailings:P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers conceptBased on the last meeting and the discussions here.P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematicWe might want to chime in here./PaulP. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topicshttp://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdfDiscussion about Games topics: P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=02.3 Domain-specific discussions2.3.1 SIG chairs - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin Holmes, John McFarlane - Financial/Trading chairs: Robin Rowe, Staffan TjernstrÃmCarl Cooke, Neal Horlock, - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson2.4 Other Papers and proposals2.5 Future F2F meetings:2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings-3. Any other businessReflectorhttps://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committeepaper mailings:http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/Code and proposal Staging areahttps://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG144. Review4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG'sworking draft]4.2 Review action items (5 min)5. Closing process5.1 Establish next agenda5.2 Future meeting* Jan 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games DONE* Feb 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded DONE* Mar 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled due to Tokyo 3-18-23* Apr 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance DONE* May 8, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games* June 12, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded; St.louis 6-24-29* July 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance* Aug 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games* Sep 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: CPPCON Sept 15-20 so cancelled* Oct 9, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded* Nov 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled Wroclaw F2F* Dec 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance