On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 1:25 AM Michael Wong <fraggamuffin@gmail.com> wrote:
Topic: SG14 Monthly This meeting is focused on Finance but we can continue with the Games paper that
was started in January, depending on what other papers or topics are of
interest.



Hi,

Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: SG14 monthly
Time: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
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Agenda:

1. Opening and introduction

ISO Code of Conduct
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ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2

IEC Code of Conduct:

https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work

WG21 Code of Conduct:

https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures

1.1 Roll call of participants
 
Guy Davidson, Andre Kostur, Bryan St. Amour, Jake Fevold, Lauri Vasama, Rene Rivera, Robin Rowe, Henry Miller, Michael Wong, Matthew Butler, Edward Catmur, Paul Bendixen, Ka Ming Chan
 

1.2 Adopt agenda

1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
 previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

CPPCON planning
C++23 and C++26 status

Future and past meeting plans

*Mar 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Apr 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* May 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* June 14, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* July 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
* Aug 9, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* Sep 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Games
* Oct 1: CPPCON
* Oct 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Nov 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Kona F2F Cancelled
* Dec 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance

2.2 Paper reviews
Discussion on Embedded:
Review latest mailings:
P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
We might want to chime in here.
/Paul
P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.


Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
REview topics relevant to fintech
-low latency: hazard pointers , RCU ,  Patrice games paper:https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2023/p2966r1.pdf
https://etlcpp.com/
flatmap, Zach Laine C++23
ring buffer: revival P0059


-executors Dietmar,  P2762 Dietmar Kühl - Sender/Receiver Interface for Networking , Ben Deane to come to talk about Intel's embedded.
-coroutine: library coroutine/generator is in C++23
-security? 
-networking? Networking TS based on boost::asio rebased to sender receiver by P2762 SG4: Sender/Receiver Interface For Networking (open-std.org)
GPU and acceleration: 
AI SG19
DFP Finance needs a decimal type with 64-bit integer with a fixed point decimal.
 
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf

Patrice's paper on games.

P2300
Swift



Discussion about Games topics:

 P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>

Patrice's WIP on Games issues.

Finance topics from July 14, 2021.

https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.php

https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php

2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?

Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf

Freestanding?

REview and update this master list of interested papers 
SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0

2.3 Domain-specific discussions

2.3.1 SIG chairs

   - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
 Holmes, John McFarlane

   - Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan TjernstrÃm
Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
   - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy

   - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson

2.4 Other Papers and proposals

2.5 Future F2F meetings:

2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings

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3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/

Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)

5. Closing process

5.1 Establish next agenda

5.2 Future meeting


*Mar 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Apr 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* May 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* June 14, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* July 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
* Aug 9, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* Sep 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Games
* Oct 1: CPPCON
* Oct 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Nov 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Kona F2F Cancelled
* Dec 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance