Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly This meeting is focused on EmbeddedHi,Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.Topic: SG14 monthlyTime: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time 1900 UTC (US and Canada) Every month on the Second Wed,Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:https://iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09 Password: 789626Or iPhone one-tap : US: +12532158782,,93151864365# or +13017158592,,93151864365#Or Telephone: Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location): US: +1 253 215 8782 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1346 248 7799 or +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833 or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free) Meeting ID: 931 5186 4365 Password: 789626 International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoDOr Skype for Business (Lync): https://iso.zoom.us/skype/93151864365Agenda:1. Opening and introductionISO Code of Conduct<https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1*>*ISO patent policy.https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2IEC Code of Conduct:https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-workWG21 Code of Conduct:https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures1.1 Roll call of participants
Timur, Andrew L, Charles B, Detlef V, Jake Fevold, John McF
Ka Ming Chan
Mattew B, Patrice, Staffan, Michael, ROnen Friedman
1.2 Adopt agenda
1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
1.4 Action items from previous meetings
2. Main issues (125 min)
2.1 General logistics
cppcon meeting
feedbacks, audio delays
experiment at cppcon may be different than what is at std meeting
laptop mikes,
headsets
Patrice as co-chair
Just an afternoon session
can attend fully remote, and not cppcon reserved
do we still have cppcon physical reservations (paid)
goal:
1. allow games people to submit paper at cppcon
2. allow cppcon people to experience a std meeting
3. simulate a hybrid meeting for future purposes
Future meeting plans*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Cancelled
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Sep 14, 2022 all day: CPPCON
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Finance/low Latency
Accessing object representations by Timur, looking for wording experts
Review latest mailings:P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers conceptBased on the last meeting and the discussions here.P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematicWe might want to chime in here./PaulP. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topicshttp://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdfPatrice's paper on games.P2300SwiftDiscussion about Games topics: P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>Patrice's WIP on Games issues.Finance topics from July 14, 2021.https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.phphttps://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwickhttps://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdfFreestanding?SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=02.3 Domain-specific discussions2.3.1 SIG chairs - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin Holmes, John McFarlane - Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan TjernstrÃmCarl Cooke, Neal Horlock, - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson2.4 Other Papers and proposals2.5 Future F2F meetings:2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings-3. Any other businessReflectorhttps://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committeepaper mailings:http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/Code and proposal Staging areahttps://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG144. Review4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG'sworking draft]4.2 Review action items (5 min)
MW to put out a call for paper for cppcon sg14
5. Closing process5.1 Establish next agenda5.2 Future meeting*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Cancelled
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Sep 14, 2022 all afternoon 2-5 pm ? Denver Mtn town: CPPCON
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Finance/low Latency