Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 13:59:34 -0400
Topic: SG14 Monthly This meeting is focused on Games and we can continue
with the Games paper that
was started in January, depending on what other papers or topics are of
interest.
We will also be announcing a new finance Subgroup chair. Thank you.
Hi,
Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: SG14 monthly
Time: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
Every month on the Second Wed,
Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
https://iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09
Password: 789626
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or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free)
Meeting ID: 931 5186 4365
Password: 789626
International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoD
Or Skype for Business (Lync):
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Agenda:
1. Opening and introduction
ISO Code of Conduct
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https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1
*>*
ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2
IEC Code of Conduct:
https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work
WG21 Code of Conduct:
https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures
1.1 Roll call of participants
1.2 Adopt agenda
1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
1.4 Action items from previous meetings
2. Main issues (125 min)
2.1 General logistics
CPPCON planning
C++23 and C++26 status
Future and past meeting plans
*Mar 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Apr 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* May 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* June 14, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* July 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
* Aug 9, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* Sep 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Games
* Oct 1: CPPCON
* Oct 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Nov 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Kona F2F Cancelled
* Dec 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
2.2 Paper reviews
Discussion on Embedded:
Review latest mailings:
P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
We might want to chime in here.
/Paul
P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.
Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf
Patrice's paper on games.
P2300
Swift
Discussion about Games topics:
P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>
Patrice's WIP on Games issues.
Finance topics from July 14, 2021.
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.php
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php
2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?
Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf
Freestanding?
SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0
2.3 Domain-specific discussions
2.3.1 SIG chairs
- Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
Holmes, John McFarlane
- Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan TjernstrÃm
Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
- Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy
- Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson
2.4 Other Papers and proposals
2.5 Future F2F meetings:
2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
-
3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/
Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review
4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]
4.2 Review action items (5 min)
5. Closing process
5.1 Establish next agenda
5.2 Future meeting
*Mar 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Apr 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* May 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* June 14, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* July 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
* Aug 9, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* Sep 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Games
* Oct 1: CPPCON
* Oct 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Nov 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Kona F2F Cancelled
* Dec 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
with the Games paper that
was started in January, depending on what other papers or topics are of
interest.
We will also be announcing a new finance Subgroup chair. Thank you.
Hi,
Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: SG14 monthly
Time: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
Every month on the Second Wed,
Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
https://iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09
Password: 789626
Or iPhone one-tap :
US: +12532158782,,93151864365# or +13017158592,,93151864365#
Or Telephone:
Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
US: +1 253 215 8782 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1
346 248 7799 or +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833
or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free)
Meeting ID: 931 5186 4365
Password: 789626
International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoD
Or Skype for Business (Lync):
https://iso.zoom.us/skype/93151864365
Agenda:
1. Opening and introduction
ISO Code of Conduct
<
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1
*>*
ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2
IEC Code of Conduct:
https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work
WG21 Code of Conduct:
https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures
1.1 Roll call of participants
1.2 Adopt agenda
1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
1.4 Action items from previous meetings
2. Main issues (125 min)
2.1 General logistics
CPPCON planning
C++23 and C++26 status
Future and past meeting plans
*Mar 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Apr 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* May 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* June 14, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* July 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
* Aug 9, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* Sep 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Games
* Oct 1: CPPCON
* Oct 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Nov 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Kona F2F Cancelled
* Dec 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
2.2 Paper reviews
Discussion on Embedded:
Review latest mailings:
P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
We might want to chime in here.
/Paul
P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.
Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf
Patrice's paper on games.
P2300
Swift
Discussion about Games topics:
P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>
Patrice's WIP on Games issues.
Finance topics from July 14, 2021.
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.php
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php
2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?
Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf
Freestanding?
SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0
2.3 Domain-specific discussions
2.3.1 SIG chairs
- Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
Holmes, John McFarlane
- Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan TjernstrÃm
Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
- Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy
- Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson
2.4 Other Papers and proposals
2.5 Future F2F meetings:
2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
-
3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/
Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review
4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]
4.2 Review action items (5 min)
5. Closing process
5.1 Establish next agenda
5.2 Future meeting
*Mar 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Apr 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* May 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* June 14, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* July 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
* Aug 9, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled
* Sep 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Games
* Oct 1: CPPCON
* Oct 10, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
*Nov 8, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Kona F2F Cancelled
* Dec 12, 2023 02:00 PM ET: Finance
Received on 2023-09-12 17:59:46