Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2022 15:36:23 +0000
I just got the attendance clearance (barring any last minute infection, etc issues), so I’ll be on the ground as it were.
From: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
Sent: Wednesday, 08 June, 2022 16:03
To: Patrice Roy <patricer_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Low Latency:Game Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices <sg14_at_[hidden]>; Tjernstrom, Staffan <Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]>
Subject: Re: [SG14] SG14 June 8 call
Thanks, no worries.
We deferred the discussion. Family comes first. Keep safe.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 3:57 PM Patrice Roy <patricer_at_[hidden]<mailto:patricer_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
Darn, I just saw this email (was trying to help-at-a-distance my eldest who just got Covid) :( I hope everything went well!
Le mer. 8 juin 2022 à 15:07, Michael Wong via SG14 <sg14_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>> a écrit :
Ok, thanks.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 3:06 PM Tjernstrom, Staffan <Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]<mailto:Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
I don’t know for certain as of yet (approvals are in-flight, etc), but I’m hoping to be on-site for CppCon.
From: SG14 <sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]>> On Behalf Of Michael Wong via SG14
Sent: Tuesday, 07 June, 2022 21:11
To: Low Latency:Game Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices <sg14_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>
Cc: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]<mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>
Subject: [SG14] SG14 June 8 call
Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly This meeting is focused on Games
Hi,
Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: SG14 monthly
Time: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time 1900 UTC (US and Canada)
Every month on the Second Wed,
Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
https://iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09
Password: 789626
Or iPhone one-tap :
US: +12532158782,,93151864365# or +13017158592,,93151864365#
Or Telephone:
Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
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346 248 7799 or +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833
or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free)
Meeting ID: 931 5186 4365
Password: 789626
International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoD
Or Skype for Business (Lync):
https://iso.zoom.us/skype/93151864365
Agenda:
1. Opening and introduction
ISO Code of Conduct
<
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1
*>*
ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2
IEC Code of Conduct:
https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work
WG21 Code of Conduct:
https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures
1.1 Roll call of participants
1.2 Adopt agenda
1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
1.4 Action items from previous meetings
2. Main issues (125 min)
2.1 General logistics
Future meeting plans
*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Embedded
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Finance/Low Latency
*Sep 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
2.2 Paper reviews
Discussion on Embedded:
Review latest mailings:
P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
We might want to chime in here.
/Paul
P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.
Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf
Patrice's paper on games.
P2300
Swift
Discussion about Games topics:
P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>
Patrice's WIP on Games issues.
Finance topics from July 14, 2021.
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.php
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php
2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?
Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf
Freestanding?
SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0
2.3 Domain-specific discussions
2.3.1 SIG chairs
- Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
Holmes, John McFarlane
- Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan TjernstrÃm
Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
- Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy
- Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson
2.4 Other Papers and proposals
2.5 Future F2F meetings:
2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
-
3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/
Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review
4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]
4.2 Review action items (5 min)
5. Closing process
5.1 Establish next agenda
5.2 Future meeting
*Apr 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Finance/Low Latency
*May 11, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games CANCELLED
*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Embedded
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Finance/Low Latency
*Sep 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
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From: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
Sent: Wednesday, 08 June, 2022 16:03
To: Patrice Roy <patricer_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Low Latency:Game Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices <sg14_at_[hidden]>; Tjernstrom, Staffan <Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]>
Subject: Re: [SG14] SG14 June 8 call
Thanks, no worries.
We deferred the discussion. Family comes first. Keep safe.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 3:57 PM Patrice Roy <patricer_at_[hidden]<mailto:patricer_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
Darn, I just saw this email (was trying to help-at-a-distance my eldest who just got Covid) :( I hope everything went well!
Le mer. 8 juin 2022 à 15:07, Michael Wong via SG14 <sg14_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>> a écrit :
Ok, thanks.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 3:06 PM Tjernstrom, Staffan <Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]<mailto:Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
I don’t know for certain as of yet (approvals are in-flight, etc), but I’m hoping to be on-site for CppCon.
From: SG14 <sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]>> On Behalf Of Michael Wong via SG14
Sent: Tuesday, 07 June, 2022 21:11
To: Low Latency:Game Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices <sg14_at_[hidden]<mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>
Cc: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]<mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>
Subject: [SG14] SG14 June 8 call
Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly This meeting is focused on Games
Hi,
Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: SG14 monthly
Time: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time 1900 UTC (US and Canada)
Every month on the Second Wed,
Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
https://iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09
Password: 789626
Or iPhone one-tap :
US: +12532158782,,93151864365# or +13017158592,,93151864365#
Or Telephone:
Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
US: +1 253 215 8782 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1
346 248 7799 or +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833
or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free)
Meeting ID: 931 5186 4365
Password: 789626
International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoD
Or Skype for Business (Lync):
https://iso.zoom.us/skype/93151864365
Agenda:
1. Opening and introduction
ISO Code of Conduct
<
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1
*>*
ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2
IEC Code of Conduct:
https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work
WG21 Code of Conduct:
https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures
1.1 Roll call of participants
1.2 Adopt agenda
1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
1.4 Action items from previous meetings
2. Main issues (125 min)
2.1 General logistics
Future meeting plans
*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Embedded
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Finance/Low Latency
*Sep 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
2.2 Paper reviews
Discussion on Embedded:
Review latest mailings:
P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
We might want to chime in here.
/Paul
P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.
Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf
Patrice's paper on games.
P2300
Swift
Discussion about Games topics:
P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>
Patrice's WIP on Games issues.
Finance topics from July 14, 2021.
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.php
https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php
2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?
Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf
Freestanding?
SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0
2.3 Domain-specific discussions
2.3.1 SIG chairs
- Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
Holmes, John McFarlane
- Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan TjernstrÃm
Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
- Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy
- Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson
2.4 Other Papers and proposals
2.5 Future F2F meetings:
2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
-
3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/
Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review
4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]
4.2 Review action items (5 min)
5. Closing process
5.1 Establish next agenda
5.2 Future meeting
*Apr 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Finance/Low Latency
*May 11, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games CANCELLED
*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET Embedded
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Finance/Low Latency
*Sep 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Games
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
________________________________
IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply and immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Any review, use, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this message or any attachment by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. Neither this message nor any attachment is intended as or should be construed as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument. Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses.
_______________________________________________
SG14 mailing list
SG14_at_[hidden]<mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]rg>
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
________________________________
IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply and immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Any review, use, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this message or any attachment by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. Neither this message nor any attachment is intended as or should be construed as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument. Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses.
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