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Re: SG14 Mar 9 Monthly Telecon

From: Tjernstrom, Staffan <Staffan.Tjernstrom_at_[hidden]>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 18:33:33 +0000
Work is causing an unusual amount of interrupts today, I will have to excuse myself and catch up from the minutes.

From: SG14 [mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Michael Wong via SG14
Sent: Tuesday, 08 March, 2022 22:49
To: Low Latency:Game Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices <sg14_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
Subject: [SG14] SG14 Mar 9 Monthly Telecon

Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly This meeting is focused on Embedded.



Hi,

Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: SG14 monthly
Time: 2nd Wednesdays 02:00 PM Eastern Time 1900 UTC (US and Canada)
    Every month on the Second Wed,

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Agenda:

1. Opening and introduction

ISO Code of Conduct
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https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1
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ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2

IEC Code of Conduct:

https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work

WG21 Code of Conduct:

https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures

1.1 Roll call of participants

1.2 Adopt agenda

1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
 previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

Future meeting plans





*Mar 9, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1900 UTC: Embedded*
*Apr 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Finance/Low Latency
*May 11, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Games
*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Embedded
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Finance/Low Latency
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Games
*Sep 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Embedded
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Finance/Low Latency

2.2 Paper reviews
Discussion on Embedded:
Review latest mailings:
P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
We might want to chime in here.
/Paul
P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.


Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
P2300
Swift



Discussion about Games topics:

 P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
<http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>

Patrice's WIP on Games issues.

Finance topics from July 14, 2021.

https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/06/0636.php

https://lists.isocpp.org/sg14/2021/07/0642.php

2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?

Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf

Freestanding?

SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0

2.3 Domain-specific discussions

2.3.1 SIG chairs

   - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
 Holmes, John McFarlane

   - Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan Tjernstr√Ém
Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
   - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy

   - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson

2.4 Other Papers and proposals

2.5 Future F2F meetings:

2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings

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3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/

Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14
4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)

5. Closing process

5.1 Establish next agenda

5.2 Future meeting

*Mar 9, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1900 UTC: Embedded*
*Apr 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Finance/Low Latency
*May 11, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Games
*June 8, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Embedded
*Jul 13, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Finance/Low Latency
*Aug 10, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Games
*Sep 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Embedded
*Oct 12, 2022 02:00 PM ET/1800 UTC: Finance/Low Latency

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Received on 2022-03-09 18:33:34