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Re: [SG14] Jan 13 SG14 meeting (Games)

From: Ben Craig <ben.craig_at_[hidden]>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 21:52:47 +0000
For a near future meeting, I would like to discuss P2268R0: Freestanding Roadmap.

On the embedded side, Wouter had some concerns about the C++20 deprecation of compound arithmetic on volatile data.

From: SG14 <sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]> On Behalf Of Michael Wong via SG14
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 2:25 PM
To: Low Latency:Game Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices <sg14_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_gmail.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SG14] Jan 13 SG14 meeting (Games)

Hi all, are there agenda items people would like to bring up for tomorrow's meeting? This one is Games focused. Happy Holidays.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:24 PM Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]<mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>> wrote:

Topic: SG14 Low Latency Monthly

This meeting is a special meeting to gather interest in Safety and Security
proposed by Matthew Butler in May 2020 Sg14 meeting.

Hi,

Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: SG14 monthly Dec 2020-Feb 2021
Time: Jan 13, 2020 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
    Every month on the Second Wed, until Feb 10, 2021, 3 occurrence(s)
    Dec 9, 2020 02:00 PM
    Jan 13, 2021 02:00 PM
    Feb 10, 2021 02:00 PM
    Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your
calendar system.
    Monthly:
https://iso.zoom.us/meeting/tJcscuigqD8pHNESxi1bJ9ClURVqr_ZAvmv1/ics?icsToken=98tyKuCrrz4rEtKRsx-CRowqBY_4d_zwpilego14rwfsUiJ5OyD6A9B0I6BAKvnG<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/iso.zoom.us/meeting/tJcscuigqD8pHNESxi1bJ9ClURVqr_ZAvmv1/ics?icsToken=98tyKuCrrz4rEtKRsx-CRowqBY_4d_zwpilego14rwfsUiJ5OyD6A9B0I6BAKvnG__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33DM7yzm-$>

Join from PC, Mac, Linux, iOS or Android:
https://iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/iso.zoom.us/j/93151864365?pwd=aDhOcDNWd2NWdTJuT1loeXpKbTcydz09__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33DuZ-Uvz$>
    Password: 789626

Or iPhone one-tap :
    US: +12532158782,,93151864365# or +13017158592,,93151864365#
Or Telephone:
    Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
        US: +1 253 215 8782 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1
346 248 7799 or +1 408 638 0968 or +1 646 876 9923 or +1 669 900 6833
 or 877 853 5247 (Toll Free)
    Meeting ID: 931 5186 4365
    Password: 789626
    International numbers available: https://iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoD<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/iso.zoom.us/u/abRrVivZoD__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33Nhxyslq$>

Or Skype for Business (Lync):
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Agenda:

1. Opening and introduction

ISO Code of Conduct
<https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=*2Flivelink*2Flivelink*3Ffunc*3Dll*26objId*3D20158641*26objAction*3Dbrowse*26viewType*3D1__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33EBlfqtV$>>

ISO patent policy.
https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33IwnvOp4$>

WG21 Code of COnduct:

https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33HMTKgxW$>

1.1 Roll call of participants

1.2 Adopt agenda

1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
 previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org

1.4 Action items from previous meetings

2. Main issues (125 min)

2.1 General logistics

Future meeting plans

    Dec 9, 2020 02:00 PM ET/1900 UTC: Safety Security DONE
    Jan 13, 2021 02:00 PM ET/1900UTC: Games
    Feb 10, 2021 02:00 PM ET/1900 UTC: Embedded

2.2 Paper reviews



2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?

SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit*gid=0__;Iw!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33Aqn5aaU$>

2.3 Domain-specific discussions

2.3.1 SIG chairs

   - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
   Holmes, John McFarlane

   - Financial/Trading chairs: Staffan Tjernström, Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
   Mateusz Pusz, Clay Trychta,
   - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson
   - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson

2.4 Other Papers and proposals

2.5 Future F2F meetings:

2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33JLOY1_G$>

- 2020-11: (New York, tentative) Cancelled.
- 2021-02-22 to 27: Kona, HI, USA Cancelled

3. Any other business
Reflector
https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33KGH8BxY$>
As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
paper mailings:
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33APRFCGs$>
http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33DyYcv3Z$>

Code and proposal Staging area
https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14__;!!FbZ0ZwI3Qg!7dx5yy_BgRtyM1Epi3onW69XXGDQ0lR1NJPiRD6lf14xpVdEtLG33O266vPK$>
4. Review

4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
working draft]

4.2 Review action items (5 min)

5. Closing process

5.1 Establish next agenda

5.2 Future meeting

Jan 13, 2021 02:00 PM Eastern Time ( 1900 UTC ): Games:

Feb 10, 2021 02:00 PM Eastern Time ( 1900 UTC ): Embedded :

Kind Rgds

Received on 2021-01-12 15:52:55