Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:11:06 -0500
Hi Matthew, the wg21.link designation always access the latest paper. So
done. Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:18 AM Matt Bentley via SG14 <sg14_at_[hidden]>
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> if you could update the paper for colony to the most recent version:
> https://isocpp.org/files/papers/P0447R10.html
> This should be in the next mailing (if not, there's been a mistake as it
> was submitted in december).
> Thanks,
> matt
>
>
>
> On 14/01/2020 3:26 am, Michael Wong via SG14 wrote:
> > Hi all, I want to urge everyone to add to the spreadsheet directly. But
> > also thanks for the note here in this thread to alert everyone abotu
> > what you are adding. It is indded a living document.
> >
> > I have turned off global edits as I have made this link visible to the
> > world. If you need access at this point, when you edit the spreadsheet,
> > it will automatically ask me to share with you. In this way, I can track
> > authors and contributors more precisely. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:47 AM Niall Douglas via SG14
> > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
> >
> > Papers of mine this mailing which SG14 members may have particular
> > interest in:
> >
> > - P2052 "Making modern C++ i/o a consistent API experience from
> bottom
> > to top"
> >
> > This paper proposes fully deterministic asynchronous i/o. Which is
> huge
> > for SG14 type folk, if the committee accepts the proposal.
> >
> >
> > - P1883 "file_handle and mapped_file_handle"
> >
> > This proposal self describes. Both types allocate no memory, throw no
> > exceptions, claim no locks, and are as deterministic as is possible.
> >
> >
> > - P1028 "SG14 status_code and standard error object"
> >
> > Little new in this for SG14 members.
> >
> >
> > - P1029 "move = bitcopies"
> >
> > Makes move-only types as ABI-efficient as trivially copyable types.
> >
> >
> > I *may* make the mailing deadline with a deterministic signal
> handling
> > paper, but I might not. It will be P2069 if it makes it.
> >
> > Niall
> >
> > On 13/01/2020 08:17, Patrice Roy via SG14 wrote:
> > > In Thread Costructor Attributes (controlling new threads' stack
> > size) we
> > > have a missing 'n' in constructor, and it will stop being dormant
> > next
> > > WG21 meeting I go to :) It also concerns other aspects of threads
> > that
> > > cannot typically be changed once a thread has been created, so it
> > might
> > > be useful to make it clear in the parenthesis that this is an
> > example of
> > > what the paper targets, but that this is not the only interesting
> > aspect
> > > of the paper.
> > >
> > > I have a long list of things to add to the list, but it won't be
> > today
> > > for lack of time, as I've been meeting with games people in
> > December and
> > > am building a list of wants and needs with them. I'm glad this
> > > spreadsheet is a living document :)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Le ven. 10 janv. 2020 à 09:44, Michael Wong via SG14
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>> a
> écrit :
> > >
> > > Thanks all, I will continue to collect names until Sunday
> > night when
> > > I will submit.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:27 AM Ben Craig via SG14
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I made edits, and you have my name right.____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > *From:* SG14 <sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]>>> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> > > Wong via SG14
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 7:05 PM
> > > *To:* Matthew Bentley <mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > *Cc:* Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>>; Low Latency:Game
> > > Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [SG14] Table of past, present
> and
> > > future SG14 proposals____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > HI all I need to collate an authors list before
> > publishing this
> > > list of papers and issues by next Monday Jan 13. As I
> > made this
> > > open for edit, everyone is anonymous so I don't know who
> > > actually edited what. So here is an authors list that I am
> > > guessing at. Please append your name if you made an edit
> and
> > > want to be a co-author. There is no limit.____
> > >
> > > Ben Craig, Paul Bendixen, Matthew Bentley, Inbal Levi,
> Rene
> > > Riviera, Steffan TJ____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > Also please correct me if I misspelled the name.
> Thanks.____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:15 PM Michael Wong
> > > <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden] <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden] <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>>
> > wrote:____
> > >
> > > Hi Matthew, yes please feel free to correct and add
> any
> > > domain you wish. Thank you and nice catch.____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:07 PM Matthew Bentley
> > > <mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>>> wrote:____
> > >
> > > Thanks Michael-
> > > guessing "PTF Colony" was meant to be "PLF
> > Colony", but
> > > could simply
> > > be renamed "Colony" as plf is just the namespace
> > for my
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Are we listing SG14 domains of work only? If not,
> > > there's a few more
> > > domains which can be added to colony as mentioned
> > in the
> > > introduction
> > > to that paper.
> > > Cheers-
> > > M
> > >
> > > On 09/01/2020, Michael Wong via SG14
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Thanks Paul, I agree. Please add that and I will
> > > augment it with direct
> > > > links.
> > > >
> > > > Great catch!
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:46 PM Paul M. Bendixen
> > via SG14 <
> > > > sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Looks good, though I'd remark that the
> ring_span
> > > proposal would also
> > > >> be very useful in the embedded domain.
> > > >> /Paul
> > > >>
> > > >> Den ons. 8. jan. 2020 kl. 17.51 skrev Michael
> Wong
> > > via SG14
> > > >> <sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi all, as promised from the December's SG14
> > survey
> > > of Domain features,
> > > >> I have started building a google spread sheet
> of
> > > features, issues,
> > > >> defects
> > > >> we wish to address. We discussed some of these
> > > wishlist during the call
> > > >> and
> > > >> thanks to Steffan TJ's post-call discussion, we
> > > collated further
> > > >> propoals.
> > > >> We can put this into github after we had some
> > > discussions.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This is my recollection of current status,
> > though I
> > > may be wrong in
> > > >> > many
> > > >> entries so I am hoping others, especially the
> > authors
> > > can correct this,
> > > >> directly by editing the document.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The goal of this is to use this to record
> > our past
> > > succecssful
> > > >> proposals, and also to drive additional
> > proposals of
> > > interest. Some of
> > > >> the
> > > >> proposals does not need to be directly related
> to
> > > SG14, but could be in
> > > >> led
> > > >> through other groups (such as SG6, SG19) but
> we we
> > > are also watchign it
> > > >> for
> > > >> interest.
> > > >> > If you want editing, just ask me. As it is
> > Google,
> > > obviously google
> > > >> accounts works best, but non-google account
> > sometimes
> > > also work, though I
> > > >> have not detected what the patterns are.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I hope to turn this into a regular status
> > document
> > > update for the
> > > >> mailing on SG14 progress.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0
> > >
> > <
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> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> _______________________________________________
> > > >> > SG14 mailing list
> > > >> > SG14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>>
> > > >> >
> > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> > >
> > <
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> > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > >> SG14 mailing list
> > > >> SG14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>>
> > > >>
> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> > >
> > <
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> >
> > > >>
> > > >____
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SG14 mailing list
> > > SG14_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>>
> > > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SG14 mailing list
> > > SG14_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>>
> > > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > SG14 mailing list
> > > SG14_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>
> > > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SG14 mailing list
> > SG14_at_[hidden] <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>
> > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SG14 mailing list
> > SG14_at_[hidden]
> > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> >
> _______________________________________________
> SG14 mailing list
> SG14_at_[hidden]
> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
>
done. Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:18 AM Matt Bentley via SG14 <sg14_at_[hidden]>
wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> if you could update the paper for colony to the most recent version:
> https://isocpp.org/files/papers/P0447R10.html
> This should be in the next mailing (if not, there's been a mistake as it
> was submitted in december).
> Thanks,
> matt
>
>
>
> On 14/01/2020 3:26 am, Michael Wong via SG14 wrote:
> > Hi all, I want to urge everyone to add to the spreadsheet directly. But
> > also thanks for the note here in this thread to alert everyone abotu
> > what you are adding. It is indded a living document.
> >
> > I have turned off global edits as I have made this link visible to the
> > world. If you need access at this point, when you edit the spreadsheet,
> > it will automatically ask me to share with you. In this way, I can track
> > authors and contributors more precisely. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:47 AM Niall Douglas via SG14
> > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
> >
> > Papers of mine this mailing which SG14 members may have particular
> > interest in:
> >
> > - P2052 "Making modern C++ i/o a consistent API experience from
> bottom
> > to top"
> >
> > This paper proposes fully deterministic asynchronous i/o. Which is
> huge
> > for SG14 type folk, if the committee accepts the proposal.
> >
> >
> > - P1883 "file_handle and mapped_file_handle"
> >
> > This proposal self describes. Both types allocate no memory, throw no
> > exceptions, claim no locks, and are as deterministic as is possible.
> >
> >
> > - P1028 "SG14 status_code and standard error object"
> >
> > Little new in this for SG14 members.
> >
> >
> > - P1029 "move = bitcopies"
> >
> > Makes move-only types as ABI-efficient as trivially copyable types.
> >
> >
> > I *may* make the mailing deadline with a deterministic signal
> handling
> > paper, but I might not. It will be P2069 if it makes it.
> >
> > Niall
> >
> > On 13/01/2020 08:17, Patrice Roy via SG14 wrote:
> > > In Thread Costructor Attributes (controlling new threads' stack
> > size) we
> > > have a missing 'n' in constructor, and it will stop being dormant
> > next
> > > WG21 meeting I go to :) It also concerns other aspects of threads
> > that
> > > cannot typically be changed once a thread has been created, so it
> > might
> > > be useful to make it clear in the parenthesis that this is an
> > example of
> > > what the paper targets, but that this is not the only interesting
> > aspect
> > > of the paper.
> > >
> > > I have a long list of things to add to the list, but it won't be
> > today
> > > for lack of time, as I've been meeting with games people in
> > December and
> > > am building a list of wants and needs with them. I'm glad this
> > > spreadsheet is a living document :)
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Le ven. 10 janv. 2020 à 09:44, Michael Wong via SG14
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>> a
> écrit :
> > >
> > > Thanks all, I will continue to collect names until Sunday
> > night when
> > > I will submit.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:27 AM Ben Craig via SG14
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I made edits, and you have my name right.____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > *From:* SG14 <sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14-bounces_at_[hidden]>>> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> > > Wong via SG14
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 7:05 PM
> > > *To:* Matthew Bentley <mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > *Cc:* Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>>; Low Latency:Game
> > > Dev/Financial/Trading/Simulation/Embedded Devices
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [SG14] Table of past, present
> and
> > > future SG14 proposals____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > HI all I need to collate an authors list before
> > publishing this
> > > list of papers and issues by next Monday Jan 13. As I
> > made this
> > > open for edit, everyone is anonymous so I don't know who
> > > actually edited what. So here is an authors list that I am
> > > guessing at. Please append your name if you made an edit
> and
> > > want to be a co-author. There is no limit.____
> > >
> > > Ben Craig, Paul Bendixen, Matthew Bentley, Inbal Levi,
> Rene
> > > Riviera, Steffan TJ____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > Also please correct me if I misspelled the name.
> Thanks.____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:15 PM Michael Wong
> > > <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden] <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>
> > <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden] <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>>
> > wrote:____
> > >
> > > Hi Matthew, yes please feel free to correct and add
> any
> > > domain you wish. Thank you and nice catch.____
> > >
> > > __ __
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:07 PM Matthew Bentley
> > > <mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>
> > > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:mattreecebentley_at_[hidden]>>> wrote:____
> > >
> > > Thanks Michael-
> > > guessing "PTF Colony" was meant to be "PLF
> > Colony", but
> > > could simply
> > > be renamed "Colony" as plf is just the namespace
> > for my
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Are we listing SG14 domains of work only? If not,
> > > there's a few more
> > > domains which can be added to colony as mentioned
> > in the
> > > introduction
> > > to that paper.
> > > Cheers-
> > > M
> > >
> > > On 09/01/2020, Michael Wong via SG14
> > > <sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Thanks Paul, I agree. Please add that and I will
> > > augment it with direct
> > > > links.
> > > >
> > > > Great catch!
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:46 PM Paul M. Bendixen
> > via SG14 <
> > > > sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Looks good, though I'd remark that the
> ring_span
> > > proposal would also
> > > >> be very useful in the embedded domain.
> > > >> /Paul
> > > >>
> > > >> Den ons. 8. jan. 2020 kl. 17.51 skrev Michael
> Wong
> > > via SG14
> > > >> <sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:sg14_at_[hidden]>>>:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi all, as promised from the December's SG14
> > survey
> > > of Domain features,
> > > >> I have started building a google spread sheet
> of
> > > features, issues,
> > > >> defects
> > > >> we wish to address. We discussed some of these
> > > wishlist during the call
> > > >> and
> > > >> thanks to Steffan TJ's post-call discussion, we
> > > collated further
> > > >> propoals.
> > > >> We can put this into github after we had some
> > > discussions.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This is my recollection of current status,
> > though I
> > > may be wrong in
> > > >> > many
> > > >> entries so I am hoping others, especially the
> > authors
> > > can correct this,
> > > >> directly by editing the document.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The goal of this is to use this to record
> > our past
> > > succecssful
> > > >> proposals, and also to drive additional
> > proposals of
> > > interest. Some of
> > > >> the
> > > >> proposals does not need to be directly related
> to
> > > SG14, but could be in
> > > >> led
> > > >> through other groups (such as SG6, SG19) but
> we we
> > > are also watchign it
> > > >> for
> > > >> interest.
> > > >> > If you want editing, just ask me. As it is
> > Google,
> > > obviously google
> > > >> accounts works best, but non-google account
> > sometimes
> > > also work, though I
> > > >> have not detected what the patterns are.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I hope to turn this into a regular status
> > document
> > > update for the
> > > >> mailing on SG14 progress.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0
> > >
> > <
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> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> _______________________________________________
> > > >> > SG14 mailing list
> > > >> > SG14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]> <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]
> > <mailto:SG14_at_[hidden]>>
> > > >> >
> > https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14
> > >
> > <
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