Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 20:11:08 +0000
I received the previous message like 1min before this one (although it was dared April 15 2020), so I don't know that was sufficient for the group to discuss :-)
-- Gaby
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From: SG12 <sg12-bounces_at_[hidden]> on behalf of Keane, Erich via SG12 <sg12_at_[hidden]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:34:11 AM
To: sg12_at_[hidden] <sg12_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Keane, Erich <erich.keane_at_[hidden]>
Subject: Re: [SG12] EWG Requests feedback/suggestions on Core Issue 1555
Hi all!
Did this make it to the mailing list? I didn’t see any discussion on this so I didn’t know if the group decided to just cover this in a telecon that I didn’t hear about, or it just dropped ?? I just wanted to make sure it doesn’t get dropped.
Thanks,
Erich
From: Keane, Erich
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:56 AM
To: sg12_at_[hidden]
Cc: JF Bastien <cxx_at_[hidden]>
Subject: EWG Requests feedback/suggestions on Core Issue 1555
Hi SG12-
In the EWG telecon today, we discussed core issue 1555 (http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/cwg_closed.html#1555<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fcwg_closed.html%231555&data=02%7C01%7Cgdr%40microsoft.com%7C40c6746bc4a348e4c69508d7f7786aae%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637249968868887111&sdata=7bsDz0L7qhKojk8IjFyKggli2R1l4ib4cTiFjNmnopc%3D&reserved=0>). The summary of the issue is that the standard makes function types of different language linkage incompatible, thus calling a function from a pointer with different language linkage is undefined behavior. One unnamed implementation was referenced during the discussion where language linkage effects calling convention.
The major implementations (and none other than the 1 unnamed one listed) simply don’t implement this restriction (that the types aren’t compatible) because the calling convention is the same between the linkages.
EWG was undecided as to whether we should remove this instance restriction, or leave it as undefined behavior. None seemed to support CWG1555’s proposed resolution of conditionally-supported behavior.
(TL-DR people can start here?? )
The outcome of the discussion is that the impact and scope of this Undefined Behavior should be evaluated by SG12, and if possible, provide a set of recommendations for dealing with this core issue.
-Erich
-- Gaby
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From: SG12 <sg12-bounces_at_[hidden]> on behalf of Keane, Erich via SG12 <sg12_at_[hidden]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:34:11 AM
To: sg12_at_[hidden] <sg12_at_[hidden]>
Cc: Keane, Erich <erich.keane_at_[hidden]>
Subject: Re: [SG12] EWG Requests feedback/suggestions on Core Issue 1555
Hi all!
Did this make it to the mailing list? I didn’t see any discussion on this so I didn’t know if the group decided to just cover this in a telecon that I didn’t hear about, or it just dropped ?? I just wanted to make sure it doesn’t get dropped.
Thanks,
Erich
From: Keane, Erich
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:56 AM
To: sg12_at_[hidden]
Cc: JF Bastien <cxx_at_[hidden]>
Subject: EWG Requests feedback/suggestions on Core Issue 1555
Hi SG12-
In the EWG telecon today, we discussed core issue 1555 (http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/cwg_closed.html#1555<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.open-std.org%2Fjtc1%2Fsc22%2Fwg21%2Fdocs%2Fcwg_closed.html%231555&data=02%7C01%7Cgdr%40microsoft.com%7C40c6746bc4a348e4c69508d7f7786aae%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637249968868887111&sdata=7bsDz0L7qhKojk8IjFyKggli2R1l4ib4cTiFjNmnopc%3D&reserved=0>). The summary of the issue is that the standard makes function types of different language linkage incompatible, thus calling a function from a pointer with different language linkage is undefined behavior. One unnamed implementation was referenced during the discussion where language linkage effects calling convention.
The major implementations (and none other than the 1 unnamed one listed) simply don’t implement this restriction (that the types aren’t compatible) because the calling convention is the same between the linkages.
EWG was undecided as to whether we should remove this instance restriction, or leave it as undefined behavior. None seemed to support CWG1555’s proposed resolution of conditionally-supported behavior.
(TL-DR people can start here?? )
The outcome of the discussion is that the impact and scope of this Undefined Behavior should be evaluated by SG12, and if possible, provide a set of recommendations for dealing with this core issue.
-Erich
Received on 2020-05-13 15:14:22