On 16 January 2014 21:41, Herb Sutter <hsutter_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> Matt quoted:
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> "The lifetime of an object of type T begins when:
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> — storage with the proper alignment and size for type T is obtained, and
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> — if the object has non-trivial initialization, its initialization is
> complete."
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> Perhaps the necessary fix is to strike “if the object has non-trivial
> initialization” here. I don’t see why trivial constructors are special –
> sure, they don’t do anything, but they are notionally important.
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> A bag of memory of alignment and size suitable for T is-not-a T object until
> its (possibly trivial) ctor is called on that memory – it seems wrong for
> that to be true for all T except trivially-constructible T’s (with implicit
> universal type-punning for all types <= sizeof(T)).


Well, as far as I understand, trivial constructors might not be called at all.