Hi all, sorry I flaked out and plain forgot about this meeting likely
because I had a family thing that occupied my mind that made me forget
about this even though I had sent a note about it just yesterday. I am very
Sorry about that. Perhaps I am getting too old for this and can only keep
one thing in my head at a time.

There is one thing I wanted to mention is that I am looking for cppcon
proposal to be discussed in the SG14/19 meeting that will be hosted there
for the first time since the pandemic. The cppcon session will be physical
with remote access, unlike the rest of cppcon which is physical.

Again, I deeply apologize.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 2:34 PM Andrew Lumsdaine via SG19 <
sg19_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> Same.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew Lumsdaine
>
> On Sep 14, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Guy Davidson <guy.cpp.wg21_at_[hidden]> wrote:
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> On Thu, 14 Sept 2023 at 19:11, Andrew Lumsdaine via SG19 <
> sg19_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>> I am just getting “Waiting for host” from zoom….
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Andrew Lumsdaine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:50 AM, Michael Wong via SG19 <sg19_at_[hidden]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, this is the SG19 Machine Learning meeting will focus on graphs.
>> Are there any other suggested topics?
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> Michael Wong is inviting
>> you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>
>> Topic: SG19 monthly
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>> Every month on the Second Thu,
>>
>>
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>>
>> Agenda:
>>
>> 1. Opening and introductions
>>
>> The ISO Code of conduct:
>> https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/store/en/PUB100397.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/store/en/PUB100397.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1vAUkXiY$>
>>
>> IEC Code of Conduct:
>>
>> https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work
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>>
>> ISO patent policy.
>>
>>
>> https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2
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>>
>> The WG21 Practices and Procedures and Code of Conduct:
>>
>> https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures
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>>
>> 1.1 Roll call of participants
>>
>> 1.2 Adopt agenda
>>
>> 1.3 Approve minutes from previous meeting, and approve publishing
>> previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org <http://isocpp.org/>
>>
>> 1.4 Action items from previous meetings
>>
>> 2. Main issues (125 min)
>>
>> 2.1 General logistics
>>
>> Meeting plan, focus on one paper per meeting but does not preclude other
>> paper updates:
>>
>> Varna F2F
>> C++23 and C++26 status
>>
>>
>> Apr 13: Graph
>> May 11: Cancelled
>> June 15: Varna F2F (cancelled)
>> July 13: Stats
>> Aug 10: Cancelled
>> Sep 14: Graph
>> Oct 12: Stats
>> Nov 9: Kona F2F Cancelled
>> Dec 14: Matrix
>>
>>
>> ISO meeting status
>>
>> future C++ Std meetings
>>
>> 2.2 Paper reviews
>>
>> 2.2.1: ML topics
>>
>> 2.2.1.1 Graph Proposal Phil Ratsloff et al
>>
>> Latest paper:
>>
>> Here’s a link to the paper (different than the previous paper reviewed).
>> There are some additional updates I’m planning on making before the
>> meeting.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OpH-xxRri7tJTtJJIZTYmSHkkrZJkdBwm9zJ7LqolfQ/edit?usp=sharing
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OpH-xxRri7tJTtJJIZTYmSHkkrZJkdBwm9zJ7LqolfQ/edit?usp=sharing__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1aUHbHJE$>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> P1709R3:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLHhbSTX7j0tPeTYECQFSNx3R35Mu3xO5_dyYdRy4dM/edit?usp=sharing
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kLHhbSTX7j0tPeTYECQFSNx3R35Mu3xO5_dyYdRy4dM/edit?usp=sharing__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM118Ynw3U$>
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkfDzGyfNQKs86y053M0YHOLP6frzhTJqzg1Ug_vkkE/edit?usp=sharing
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkfDzGyfNQKs86y053M0YHOLP6frzhTJqzg1Ug_vkkE/edit?usp=sharing__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1pZZSK1c$>
>>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1i_cK1zQ$>
>> >
>>
>> <
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd#heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd*heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1vB6jfgs$>
>> *>*
>>
>> Array copy semantics:
>> array copy-semantics paper P1997 "Relaxing Restrictions on Arrays",
>> https://wg21.link/p1997
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wg21.link/p1997__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1NZo8Yjs$>
>>
>> Stats feedback:
>>
>> P2376R0
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2376r0.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2376r0.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1qMWvTWw$>
>> >
>> Comments
>> on Simple Statistical Functions (p1708r4): Contracts, Exceptions and
>> Special cases Johan Lundberg
>>
>> 2.2.1.2 Reinforcement Learning Larry Lewis Jorge Silva
>>
>> Reinforcement Learning proposal:
>>
>> 2.2.1.3 Differential Calculus:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd#heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/175wIm8o4BNGti0WLq8U6uZORegKVjmnpfc-_E8PoGS0/edit?ts=5fff27cd*heading=h.9ogkehmdmtel__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1vB6jfgs$>
>>
>> 2.2.1.4
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://2.2.1.4__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1mkTCvMY$>:
>> Stats paper
>>
>> P2681R0
>> <https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p2681r0.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p2681r0.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1WBDwYZI$>>
>> More
>> Stats Functions Richard Dosselmann, Michael Wong
>> Current github
>>
>> https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/475
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/475__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1C6afjkM$>
>>
>> https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/979
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/cplusplus/papers/issues/979__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1vl43qE4$>
>>
>> Stats review Richard Dosselman et al
>>
>> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p1708r4.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p1708r4.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1KDlt7Lk$>
>>
>> Feedback from Johan Lundberg and Oleksandr Korval
>>
>> https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D2376R0.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://isocpp.org/files/papers/D2376R0.pdf__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM13wGChHM$>
>>
>> P1708R3: Math proposal for Machine Learning: 3rd review
>>
>> PXXXX: combinatorics: 1st Review
>>
>> *> std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1h_tuXlQ$>
>> <http://std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p1708r2__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1h_tuXlQ$>
>> >*
>> *> above is the stats paper that was reviewed in Prague*
>> *> http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1W4F9r40$>
>> <http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21prague/P1708R2SG19__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1W4F9r40$>
>> >*
>> *>*
>> *> Review Jolanta Polish feedback.*
>> *> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1i_cK1zQ$>
>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2020/p2119r0.html__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1i_cK1zQ$>
>> >*
>>
>>
>> 2.2.1.4
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://2.2.1.4__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1mkTCvMY$>:
>> Matrix paper
>>
>> 2.2.3 any other proposal for reviews?
>>
>> 2.3 Other Papers and proposals
>>
>> P1416R1: SG19 - Linear Algebra for Data Science and Machine Learning
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IKUNiUhBgRURW-UkspK7fAAyIhfXuMxjk7xKikK4Yp8/edit#heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IKUNiUhBgRURW-UkspK7fAAyIhfXuMxjk7xKikK4Yp8/edit*heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1Ue76Bxo$>
>>
>> P1415: Machine Learning Layered list
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elNFdIXWoetbxjO1OKol_Wj8fyi4Z4hogfj5tLVSj64/edit#heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1elNFdIXWoetbxjO1OKol_Wj8fyi4Z4hogfj5tLVSj64/edit*heading=h.tj9hitg7dbtr__;Iw!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1kJWjE-c$>
>>
>> 2.2.2 SG14 Linear Algebra progress:
>> Different layers of proposal
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poXfr7mUPovJC9ZQ5SDVM_1Nb6oYAXlK_d0ljdUAtSQ/edit
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poXfr7mUPovJC9ZQ5SDVM_1Nb6oYAXlK_d0ljdUAtSQ/edit__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1x9xYGWc$>
>>
>> 2.5 Future F2F meetings:
>>
>> 2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
>> https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1okDussQ$>
>>
>> None
>>
>> 3. Any other business
>>
>> New reflector
>>
>> http://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg19
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg19__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!nIl5K95VrWN6TvMvo08ZfopanHaCyIufeVhzpkStb9NM4w4SYoqnNIHHJ-1ioxJvbHmx1EM1C7E0lJo$>
>>
>> Old Reflector
>> https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!newtopic/sg19
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>> <https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/sg14
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>> >
>>
>> Code and proposal Staging area
>>
>> 4. Review
>>
>> 4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
>> working draft]
>>
>> 4.2 Review action items (5 min)
>>
>> 5. Closing process
>>
>> 5.1 Establish next agenda
>>
>>
>> 5.2 Future meeting
>> Apr 13: Graph
>> May 11: Cancelled
>> June 15: Varna F2F (cancelled)
>> July 13: Stats
>> Aug 10: Cancelled
>> Sep 14: Graph
>> Oct 12: Stats
>> Nov 9: Kona F2F Cancelled
>> Dec 14: Matrix
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