Michael,

Thank you for hosting today's zoom call!

Yes, please send me the spreadsheet of pending papers relevant to
finance that you showed today during call, that had Ring Buffer and the
rest.

As we discussed, if you would add a "Status" column that briefly states
the current status of each item that would be helpful. Just a few words,
not the whole history.

No, I never had a thought to split this mailing list into 3 separate
lists for finance, gaming and embedded. Was merely asking for any tips
how to find finance-related posts here from the past.

For whoever objected that 5 minutes was too long to discuss Finance
administrative issues during the call today, I hear you. I'll put such
discussion here on the list instead.

Robin

--
Robin Rowe
* Chairman ISO C++ SG14 Low Latency Financial Systems Subcommittee
On 2/14/2024 10:51 AM, John McFarlane via SG14 wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Michael Wong via SG19* <sg19_at_[hidden] 
> <mailto:sg19_at_[hidden]>>
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 at 20:43
> Subject: [SG19] SG14 Feb 14 Monthly call
> To: <sg19_at_[hidden] <mailto:sg19_at_[hidden]>>
> Cc: Michael Wong <fraggamuffin_at_[hidden] <mailto:fraggamuffin_at_[hidden]>>
> 
> 
> Topic: SG14 Monthly This meeting is focused on Embedded.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Michael Wong is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
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> 1. Opening and introduction
> 
> ISO Code of Conduct
> <
> https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1 <https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=20882226&objAction=Open&nexturl=%2Flivelink%2Flivelink%3Ffunc%3Dll%26objId%3D20158641%26objAction%3Dbrowse%26viewType%3D1>
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> 
> ISO patent policy.
> https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2 <https://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2122/3770791/Common_Policy.htm?nodeid=6344764&vernum=-2>
> 
> IEC Code of Conduct:
> 
> https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work 
> <https://www.iec.ch/basecamp/iec-code-conduct-technical-work>
> 
> WG21 Code of Conduct:
> 
> https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures <https://isocpp.org/std/standing-documents/sd-4-wg21-practices-and-procedures>
> 
> 1.1 Roll call of participants
> 
> 1.2 Adopt agenda
> 
> 1.3 Approve minutes from the previous meeting, and approve publishing
>   previously approved minutes to ISOCPP.org
> 
> 1.4 Action items from previous meetings
> 
> 2. Main issues (125 min)
> 
> 2.1 General logistics
> 
> 2024 planning
> C++23 and C++26 status
> 
> Future and past meeting plans
> 
> * Jan 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games
> * Feb 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
> * Mar 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled due to Tokyo 3-18-23
> * Apr 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance
> * May 8, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games
> * June 12, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded; St.louis 6-24-29
> * July 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance
> * Aug 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games
> * Sep 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: CPPCON Sept 15-20 so cancelled
> * Oct 9, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
> * Nov 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled Wroclaw F2F
> * Dec 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance
> 
> 2.2 Paper reviews
> Embedded:
> * P3132 Accept attributes with user-defined prefixes
> * P3134 Attribute [[asserts_rvo]]
> Deterministic Exception for Embedded by James Renwick
> https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf <https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/78829292/low_cost_deterministic_C_exceptions_for_embedded_systems.pdf>
> 
> Freestanding Updates
> 
> Games paper review
> 
> Arthur's suggestions:
> (1) I put in the Slack channel
> <https://cpplang.slack.com/archives/C3TK2M6HH/p1703947057425609 
> <https://cpplang.slack.com/archives/C3TK2M6HH/p1703947057425609>> a while
> ago Clang PR #76596 <https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/76596 
> <https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/76596>>, from
> one Max Winkler, apparently in game dev. I don't think the PR stands much
> chance of getting merged into Clang; but it might still be of interest to
> SG14 folks. The issue description is very long and somewhat detailed, and
> then there's more discussion/debate in the comments
> <https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/76596#issuecomment-1872601156 
> <https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/76596#issuecomment-1872601156>>.
> (I'd actually be interested in talking to Max, but he doesn't publish his
> email address on GitHub and I guess that might be on purpose.)
> 
> (2) LEWG will be seeing my P3055 "Relax wording to permit relocation
> optimizations in the STL"
> <https://quuxplusone.github.io/draft/d3055-relocation.html 
> <https://quuxplusone.github.io/draft/d3055-relocation.html>> in a telecon on
> February 20th. (Related blog post.
> <https://quuxplusone.github.io/blog/2024/01/02/bsl-vector-erase/ 
> <https://quuxplusone.github.io/blog/2024/01/02/bsl-vector-erase/>>) Might
> be interesting to folks who do EASTL-style containers. I'd be interested in
> early feedback and/or telecon attendance.
> 
> 
> Discussion on Embedded:
> Paul's suggestions
> The next meeting would then be Embedded and I would be interested in
> knowing if people think a module std.freestanding is worth pursuing.
> In that context I'd like to get some feedback perhaps already for the
> upcoming meeting, if people have started using modules, and if so if it has
> brought the promised expectations or if you are holding back if you see any
> relevance in modules.
> 
> Review latest mailings:
> P2532 Removing exception_ptr from the receivers concept
> Based on the last meeting and the discussions here.
> P2544 C++ Exceptions are becoming more and more problematic
> We might want to chime in here.
> /Paul
> P. S. P2327 de-deprecating volatile received a "consensus" straw poll.
> 
> 
> Discussion on Low Latency/Finance topics
> 
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf 
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p1839r4.pdf>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Discussion about Games topics:
> 
>   P2388R1 - Minimum Contract Support: either Ignore or Check_and_abort
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html 
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2021/p2388r1.html>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2.2.1 any other proposal for reviews?
> 
> 
> 
> SG14/SG19 features/issues/defects:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0 <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnUJBO72QVURttkKr7gn0_WjP--P0vAne8JBfzbRiy0/edit#gid=0>
> 
> 2.3 Domain-specific discussions
> 
> 2.3.1 SIG chairs
> 
>     - Embedded Programming chairs: Ben Craig, Wouter van Ooijen and Odin
>   Holmes, John McFarlane
> 
>     - Financial/Trading chairs: Robin Rowe, Staffan TjernstrÃm
> Carl Cooke, Neal Horlock,
>     - Games chairs: Rene Riviera, Guy Davidson and Paul Hampson, Patrice Roy
> 
>     - Linear Algebra chairs: Bob Steagall, Mark Hoemmen, Guy Davidson
> 
> 2.4 Other Papers and proposals
> 
> 2.5 Future F2F meetings:
> 
> 2.6 future C++ Standard meetings:
> https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings 
> <https://isocpp.org/std/meetings-and-participation/upcoming-meetings>
> 
> -
> 
> 3. Any other business
> Reflector
> https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14 
> <https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/sg14>
> As well as look through papers marked "SG14" in recent standards committee
> paper mailings:
> http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/ 
> <http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/>
> http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/ 
> <http://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/>
> 
> Code and proposal Staging area
> https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14 <https://github.com/WG21-SG14/SG14>
> 4. Review
> 
> 4.1 Review and approve resolutions and issues [e.g., changes to SG's
> working draft]
> 
> 4.2 Review action items (5 min)
> 
> 5. Closing process
> 
> 5.1 Establish next agenda
> 
> 5.2 Future meeting
> 
> 
> * Jan 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games DONE
> * Feb 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
> * Mar 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled due to Tokyo 3-18-23
> * Apr 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance
> * May 8, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games
> * June 12, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded; St.louis 6-24-29
> * July 10, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance
> * Aug 14, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Games
> * Sep 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: CPPCON Sept 15-20 so cancelled
> * Oct 9, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Embedded
> * Nov 13, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Cancelled Wroclaw F2F
> * Dec 11, 2024 02:00 PM ET: Finance
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