On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 10:31 AM Nicolas Weidmann <n.weidmann@bluewin.ch> wrote:
Based on your last example, we would get:

#include <vector>

#include <set>

#include <string>

 

template<typenamestruct no_default_alias3;

 

template<> struct no_default_alias3<int> {

   using type = std::vector<int>;

};

 

template<typename T> using alias3 = typename no_default_alias3<T>::type;

 

template<typename T> void bar(T a, alias3<T>) { }

 

template<> struct no_default_alias3<float> {

   using type = std::vector<int>;

};

 

template<> struct no_default_alias3<bool> {

   using type = std::set<std::string>;

};

 

void foo()

{

   bar(1.0f, std::vector<int>{});

   bar(true, std::set<std::string>{});

}


IIUC, you've just renamed `std::identity` to `no_default_alias3` and left everything else the same; is that right?
So your `no_default_alias3` template is serving as a "type deduction firewall," in the same way as `std::identity` does today.
And in particular, it is not acting in the same way as an alias template does today (because aliases do not serve as firewalls).

I think we're now going around in circles, but just in case, let me show you a program that directly compares the (transparent) behavior of aliases with the (firewalling) behavior of non-aliases.

template<class T> using Alias = T;
template<class T> struct Nonalias { using type = T; };

template<class T> void take_alias(Alias<T>);  // OK, equivalent to void take_alias(T); T is deducible
template<class T> void take_nonalias(typename Nonalias<T>::type);  // OK, but T is not deducible

int main() {
    take_alias(42);  // OK, T=int
    take_nonalias(42);  // does not compile, T can't be deduced
}

My impression of your original message/proposal is that you don't understand this fundamental difference between aliases and nonaliases, and you're basically proposing that either (1) some-or-all kinds of aliases should behave more like nonaliases, or (2) it should be possible to define (certain kinds of) nonaliases using a slight variation of alias syntax (instead of using the existing nonalias syntax).

HTH,
Arthur