Many thanks to all on replies. Let me try and clarify.

I was specifically told by one of the STL authors, the standard allows for illegal types to be defined from std:: templates.

Examples given were: 

using bad_type_1 = tuple<void>;  using bad_type_2 = basic_string_view<void ***>;

I also understood the standard is barring STL authors to constrain the types and use (for example) enable_if<> for C++ < 20 or requires for C++ >= 20 , thus they are using static_assert().

AFAIK static_assert() is instantiation constraint not type definition constraint.

This is not a rant or similar, I am just looking for a confirmation.

Kind regards

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 14:05, Ville Voutilainen <> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 11:43, DBJ via Std-Proposals
<> wrote:
> I can see (for example) static_assert being used in basic_stringview to constrain the instantiation of it. Not the type definition.
> Thus I am wondering what was/is wrong with using C++20 require, for example?

> template <class _Elem, class _Traits>
> #if __cplusplus >= 202002L
> // C++20 (and later) code
> requires  // requires-clause (ad-hoc constraint)
>     is_same_v<_Elem, typename _Traits::char_type> &&
>     (!is_array_v<_Elem>)&&is_trivial_v<_Elem>&& is_standard_layout_v<_Elem>
> #endif
>     class basic_string_view {  // wrapper for any kind of contiguous character
>                                // buffer
>  public:
> #if __cplusplus < 202002L
>   // apparently standard was/is barring std:: types to be constrained?
>   // ditto this is instantiation constraint
>   // as present in MS STL today
>   static_assert(is_same_v<_Elem, typename _Traits::char_type>,
>                 "Bad char_traits for basic_string_view; "
>                 "N4659 24.4.2 [string.view.template]/1 \"the type "
>                 "traits::char_type shall name the same type as charT.\"");

Well, string_view needs to work in C++17 mode, so rather than doing
that both with a constraint and with a static_assert,
an implementation vendor can easily choose to use just a
static_assert. And as others have hinted, a static_assert allows
the library writer to decide the text of the diagnostic, which can be