Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 08:32:50 +0100
Is there a guarantee that a cast of a pointer does not change its representation and size?
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Von:Gašper Ažman via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]>
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Betreff:Re: [std-proposals] Make all data pointers intercompatible
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You know all pointers are the same size because they're all static_cast-able to void* and back.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 9:12 AM Jeremy Rifkin via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden] <mailto:std-proposals_at_[hidden]> > wrote:
> It's possible if the compiler hides it from the programmer. For instance if CHAR_BIT==8, and if the CPU instructions deal with 16-Bit operands, then you can have:
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> CHAR_BIT == 8
> sizeof(int*) == 2
> sizeof(char*) == 3
All the language cares about is that you can in fact address every byte of memory. From a language perspective, if CHAR_BIT == 8 then the smallest addressable unit of memory is 8 bits irrespective of hardware details.
Between https://eel.is/c++draft/basic.memobj#intro.memory-1 and https://eel.is/c++draft/basic.compound#7 and the fact struct Frog; Frog* ptr1 = nullptr; Frog* foo(); Frog* ptr2 = foo(); has to work I think it's sufficiently covered by the standard that all pointers to non-fundamental objects are the same size (or at least compatible in some way to make everything here work). Even if you had a system where sizeof(char*) == 3 and sizeof(int*) == 2 you would know sizeof(void*) >= 3.
Cheers,
Jeremy
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 5:42 PM Frederick Virchanza Gotham via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden] <mailto:std-proposals_at_[hidden]> > wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 11:17 PM Jeremy Rifkin wrote:
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> > For example on a system where CHAR_BIT==8 but the smallest addressable unit of memory is 16 bits
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> That's not possible https://eel.is/c++draft/basic.memobj#intro.memory-1
It's possible if the compiler hides it from the programmer. For
instance if CHAR_BIT==8, and if the CPU instructions deal with 16-Bit
operands, then you can have:
CHAR_BIT == 8
sizeof(int*) == 2
sizeof(char*) == 3
An int* is a 16-Bit number representing a memory address.
A char* is a 16-Bit number representing a memory address, with an
extra byte to indicate the offset.
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