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Re: [std-proposals] Fwd: set_new_handler extension

From: Phil Bouchard <boost_at_[hidden]>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 13:54:28 -0400
Honestly I do think Torvalds is right when he says C++ is fixing the
wrong problems but I don't care since I'll just add it to the stacks of
solutions brought forward by C++ Superset.

On 5/26/23 10:53, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> You can have many different implementations of a thread-safe STL
> depending on the requirements. It all imposes different pros and cons.
> To arbitrarily choose one way of implementing thread safety would cause
> it to be suboptimal in other cases, and someone could say, C++ should
> provide different configurations.
>
> Now imagine you develop a library that uses STL. How can you make sure
> that it will work optimally with all those settings? You also have to
> implement all possible settings? You cannot just choose, because your
> library may not be compatible with other libraries with different
> settings. What if you want to provide only a DLL/.so and header files,
> but no source code?
>
> Global switches in STL are a great way to make C++ self-incompatible.
>
>
>
> Phil Bouchard via Std-Proposals <std-proposals_at_[hidden]
> <mailto:std-proposals_at_[hidden]>> ezt írta (időpont: 2023. máj.
> 25., Cs, 22:53):
>
>
>
> On 5/25/23 16:49, Jason McKesson via Std-Proposals wrote:
> > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 4:18 PM Phil Bouchard <boost_at_[hidden]
> <mailto:boost_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/25/23 16:12, Jason McKesson via Std-Proposals wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Um, no. That would break the performance of any number of
> applications
> >>> that don't need thread safety or have handled it properly
> themselves.
> >>
> >> You just turn it on or off depending on the need, defaulting to off
> >> obviously.
> >
> > Again, no. In order to make operations on the same `std::vector<int>`
> > thread-safe, every such object would have to carry some kind of
> > mutually-exclusive payload. Therefore, every such object would
> have to
> > carry a cost. Even if we somehow standardized the ability to
> switch it
> > on and off, that would break if I used a library that had a different
> > setting from the one I compile for myself. Our objects wouldn't
> be the
> > same objects.
>
> Ok I won't argue here but it's pretty easy to make derived thread-safe
> versions anyways. So I'll write my own versions then, thanks.
>
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