Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:21:34 +0300
On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 21:00, Thiago Macieira via Std-Proposals
<std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:02:15 PDT connor horman via Std-Proposals wrote:
> > Though that leaves room for a lower level language, C or even Rust (which
> > also has a valid infinite looping construct loop{}, which the fact it is
> > infinite is relied upon for soundness).
> >
> > I would argue that where a user intends to invoke an infinite loop, and
> > that intention is clearly communicated (condition of for/while/do-while is
> > either a contextually converted constant expression of type bool, which
> > after conversions evaluates to true, or the condition of for is omitted),
> > the construct should be permitted. It harms embedded use cases (what about
> > processors that don't have a STP instruction); can be surprising for people
> > coming into C++ from other languages that do have endless looping
> > constructs, including C; and even serves to limit the common subset between
> > languages further.
>
> The problem is that we've so found far exactly one valid use-case for an
> infinite loop without any visible progress and it's really, really rare. I
> don't think the language needs to change to accommodate it, if there are other
> solutions and if even C++ can do that by having a library function do it.
>
> This function could be called "exit".
P1494 covers this problem in addition to others. We don't need to
invent anything that hasn't already
been invented, and proposed, too.
<std-proposals_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, 10 May 2020 18:02:15 PDT connor horman via Std-Proposals wrote:
> > Though that leaves room for a lower level language, C or even Rust (which
> > also has a valid infinite looping construct loop{}, which the fact it is
> > infinite is relied upon for soundness).
> >
> > I would argue that where a user intends to invoke an infinite loop, and
> > that intention is clearly communicated (condition of for/while/do-while is
> > either a contextually converted constant expression of type bool, which
> > after conversions evaluates to true, or the condition of for is omitted),
> > the construct should be permitted. It harms embedded use cases (what about
> > processors that don't have a STP instruction); can be surprising for people
> > coming into C++ from other languages that do have endless looping
> > constructs, including C; and even serves to limit the common subset between
> > languages further.
>
> The problem is that we've so found far exactly one valid use-case for an
> infinite loop without any visible progress and it's really, really rare. I
> don't think the language needs to change to accommodate it, if there are other
> solutions and if even C++ can do that by having a library function do it.
>
> This function could be called "exit".
P1494 covers this problem in addition to others. We don't need to
invent anything that hasn't already
been invented, and proposed, too.
Received on 2020-05-11 13:24:57