+Charlie Barto 

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 17:13 Victor Zverovich <victor.zverovich@gmail.com> wrote:
Please note that if we go with the L specifier, then it should follow precision for consistency with standard format specifiers (https://eel.is/c++draft/format.string.std) and to avoid ambiguity, i.e. it should be

  fill-and-align(opt) width(opt) precision(opt) L(opt) chrono-specs(opt)

Also typo: later -> latter.

- Victor

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 12:29 AM Corentin via SG16 <sg16@lists.isocpp.org> wrote:
In [time.format], it is specified 

> Some of the conversion specifiers depend on the locale that is passed to the formatting function if the latter takes one, or the global locale otherwise

This is not consistent with the format design after the adoption of P1892
In [format.string.std] we say:

> When the L option is used, the form used for the conversion is called the locale-specific form. The L option is only valid for arithmetic types, and its effect depends upon the type

This has 2 issues:
First, it is inconsistent.

format("{}, 0.0"); // locale independent
format("{:L}", 0.0); // use locale
format("{:%r}, some_time); // use globale locale
format("{:%rL}, some_time); // error

And second it perpetuates the issues P1892 intended to solve.
It is likely that this inconsistency resulted from both papers being in flight around the same time

Proposed resolution

The L option should be used and consistent with floating point. We suggest using the C locale which is the non-locale locale. (https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009604499/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html)

Suggested wording

Modify [time.format]/1

chrono-format-spec: 
    fill-and-align(opt) width(opt) precision(opt) chrono-specs(opt)L(opt)

Modify [time.format]/2

Each conversion specifier conversion-spec is replaced by appropriate characters as described in Table 101; the formats specified in ISO 8601:2004 shall be used where so described. Some of the conversion specifiers depend on <del>the locale that is passed to the formatting function if the latter takes one, or the global locale otherwise</del>
<ins>a locale. If the L option is used, that locale is the locale that is passed to the formatting function if the later takes one, or the global locale otherwise. If the L option is not used, that locale is the "C" locale</ins>.If the formatted object does not contain the information the conversion specifier refers to, an exception of type format_error is thrown.



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